Looking around some older forum posts I came across some people mentioning My Free Shares. I looked a bit into the site and found it an interesting model.
So for those who are in the program, what are your opinions/feedback on the site?

MFS is part of the multimoney group

http://www.multimoneygroup.com/

It is owned and operated by Sebas Broekhof who is a long term stable owner in the PTC industry

I am a long term member of MFS. I liken it to a humble but consistent income opportunity if you know how to use it. I purchase the monthly pro offers. They cost $25 per month and give you 200 shares at the site. The pro offer usually is advertising for 20K - 25K ads

Those shares give you the opportunity to profit share from the site. I have been doing that for many years now myself to the point where I'm earning around $1.50 per day (over 15,000 shares)

That money can be spent on more advertising or cashed out. It costs you some shares to cash out but if you don't, you can cash in your earnings for advertising in perpetuity.

To put that in perspective, I am earning enough to cash in for 100K ad impressions every two months at MFS(and he does accept PTPs). This all came from investing $25 per month in pro offers which also gave me advertising at the time of purchase. I estimate it takes about three years for the ad purchase to pay you back in profit sharing. At that point your ad is free and anything else you have made is pure profit.

So if you are patient you can build an income there and get lots of advertising in the mean time

Those 20k-25k ads are full-page ads, right? Not banners or other types of ad stuff?

Obviously you'd need something to promote suitable for that. No point in promoting my Neobux or Clixsense links there. :P I could have made use of that for CashClixs, but.... yeah, you know the rest.

I'm a big fan of CashNhits PTP, but now that it's going to end I'm having trouble finding good PTP sites to replace it.

Yes, they are usually PTC ads in one of his other sites like Donkeymails or Jillsclickcorner. For example, the April pro offer this month is 20,000 ptc ads at donkeymails

Every once in a while he'll give 20K PTP ads but not very often. When that happens I try to put an ad for a site that gives credits for showing the referral page

So what I'll probably do this month is put a PTP page for no minimum (another of the MM group sites) in there this month and earn money back at that site. That lowers the cost of the pro offer so the break even comes quicker.

Both donkey mails and no minimum are PTP's. They are not the highest paying but they are built to last. Sebas makes sure his sites are sustainable and they are some of the oldest sites in the industry

My Free Shares has been around a LONG time.  You earn shares several ways.  You click on the paid to share links daily and earn that way.  You also will earn shares when you refer active members.  You can also buy advertising.  I purchased 20,000 hits at JillsClickCorner for $25 with their PRO offer and got 200 shares. 

Each day, you earn a share of the site income.  So, if you have to go on vacation, you'll keep earning based on your share!  When you cash out ($10) they deduct 3 shares for every dollar received.

It's an easy program because you can click once daily, and not worry about having to return to check it until the next day.

You also do not need to click to earn income once you have a large share base built up. You just need to log in every once in a while to keep your account active

moneymarketing wrote on 7^th Apr, 2013 at 6:58pm:

You also do not need to click to earn income once you have a large share base built up. You just need to log in every once in a while to keep your account active

Let them click if they want to. I've been clicking.

mgbland79705 wrote on 7^th Apr, 2013 at 5:16pm:

When you cash out ($10) they deduct 3 shares for every dollar received.

Or you could even redeem your earnings for advertising by sending them a "Pay with earnings" e-mail and letting them know which advertising you want.

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Apr, 2013 at 12:10am:

Let them click if they want to. I've been clicking.

I didn't say they shouldn't click. I said they didn't need to. Since that is a minimum requirement for many sites I was letting them know

After years and years and YEARS of people requesting, MFS is finally changing their script. This could make them a player again in the PTC industry if they actually follow through on giving us benefits from our referrals(pardon his spelling errors, English is not his first language):


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August 1st. 2013 IMPORTANT NEWS PLEASE READ!!! We finnaly found someone to rebuild our MFS script and we working together now with them to make this ready. As of this starting today no commission will be run till the rebuild is finished. The comming days the share per click, signup paid offers are still available but this will be closed soon as well. Request payout is already closed, all current payout requests will be paid around 15 august. The payout page will be reopened then again after the new script is total ready. Some things at the new script will be. 1. Earn from activity of referrals. 2. Inactive members for more then 100 days will not earn cash (means higher earnings for active members). 3. Monthly debet of a small % of all shares of all members. (this will higher up share earnings). 4. More ways to earn shares! If you have any question about this all you can always contact us. Notice referral links will be changed as well after rebuild so please think about this as well with your current promotions Greetings myfreeshares Team

I think part of the reason was that the income formula wasn't working. Plus, if he is going to let us earn more from our referrals then maybe not enough people were promoting because they saw no benefit(Me included)

You might want to set aside some cash and advertising for the relaunch in case it is a good new deal. If it is then folks all over PTC land will be advertising this again and getting a jump on them would be beneficial

Looking forward to what's coming. Honestly, I thought their current script was kind of sloppy. Not to mention the stats page never being up to date, with mistaken dates and so on.
Hopefully they'll do a much needed improvement.

The script was something like 9 years old. A lot has changed since then. He was updating the numbers by hand. I have told him in the past that maybe he would want to do it once per week instead. That would save him a ton of work but if he finally does get around to automating it, then that should solve many of the problems.

I sent a mail to him suggesting they need a referral tracking system like clixsense. He agreed but it won't happen with this changeover. He says they want to get something like that happening. If the new script saves him a lot of time then maybe he will get the time to do that

I've always liked MFS. It was the one site that kept me going in 2005 when all the other sites turned out to be cheats and liars. I wouldn't be in internet marketing today if it hadn't been for them. It has disappointed on a few occasions(like not honoring the referral system they had now) but they always paid and they offered some great ad deals

I'm up to 16K shares now so no matter what they do, I think I'll probably benefit from the improvements. That would be great and give me a reason to roll many of my profits back into the site in order to benefit us all. I'm looking forward to it but still a little cautious. He has sometimes given a little pain along with any changes he has made in the past so it is a bit of a wait and see. I still buy the pro offer every month though and have been for 8 years now.  :)

16k?  :o
Dam-n, that's a lot.
I haven't bought the pro offer these last two months, due to needing money for some investments. Pherhaps I'll wait a bit to see the new look.

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Aug, 2013 at 2:40pm:

16k?  :o Dam-n, that's a lot. I haven't bought the pro offer these last two months, due to needing money for some investments. Pherhaps I'll wait a bit to see the new look.

Yep, that is faithfully buying the pro offer month in and month out for 8 or 9 years. I've lost count it has been so long but at 200 shares per month it starts to add up.  ;D Plus, I have seldom cashed out.

The dedication has paid off though. That now earns me about $50 per month at the current rates. I usually use that to buy advertising though so no one can accuse me of not supporting the site  :)

wow moneymarketing, this is really great, I think I'll try to buy pro more often too because MFS is also definitely one of my favorites !

sophieca wrote on 7^th Aug, 2013 at 11:00am:

wow moneymarketing, this is really great, I think I'll try to buy pro more often too because MFS is also definitely one of my favorites !

They haven't been the top payer but Sebas has tried to keep the site sustainable and built it to last. That is the same with his other sites. They are humble but they last forever it seems. So, if you are planning on sticking around for a few decades.....  ;D

Some of you have any news about myfreeshares ?

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:53pm:

Some of you have any news about myfreeshares ?

Nothing yet. These things always seem to take longer than they are announced to take. Sebas has announced that Donkey mails will be taking bit coins at his site and he is now offering a deal for folks to invest their bitcoins.

I have a pro offer for MFS coming due on the 8th. I'll ask him when I submit that

moneymarketing wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 7:22am:

Nothing yet. These things always seem to take longer than they are announced to take. Sebas has announced that Donkey mails will be taking bit coins at his site and he is now offering a deal for folks to invest their bitcoins. I have a pro offer for MFS coming due on the 8th. I'll ask him when I submit that

Hmmm, I hope you have seen that this bitcoins deal was a phising email, Sebas didn't send it.

Am very curious to see what will happen with MFS , I really like that site :)

sophieca wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 11:40pm:

Hmmm, I hope you have seen that this bitcoins deal was a phising email, Sebas didn't send it. Am very curious to see what will happen with MFS , I really like that site :)

What? Phishing. Oh man. How did that creep get my email address? You're probably right though since there is no info about it on the DM site. He usually goes into more detail on his site or puts a link up in the mail directly to the exchange page.

I hope not too many people got tricked by that

I agree about MFS though. That has been consistent and stable for a long time

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Sep, 2013 at 8:23am:

What? Phishing. Oh man. How did that creep get my email address? You're probably right though since there is no info about it on the DM site. He usually goes into more detail on his site or puts a link up in the mail directly to the exchange page. I hope not too many people got tricked by that I agree about MFS though. That has been consistent and stable for a long time

I hope too that not too many fell for it, I read about the phising at EMS forum and bitcoin forum ..... now those people say that Donkey is a hyip, it's always a bit irking seeing people say nonsense.

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:53pm:

Some of you have any news about myfreeshares ?

I asked Sebas about the upgrades. He says he expects for them to take place by the end of the month.....


...so, knowing how these things are, I guess we can expect it by Christmas  ;D

moneymarketing wrote on 9^th Sep, 2013 at 5:50pm:

I asked Sebas about the upgrades. He says he expects for them to take place by the end of the month..... ...so, knowing how these things are, I guess we can expect it by Christmas  ;D

Lol.. well Christmas is not that far away.. :)
Refban was to come live at the start of 2013 but it only happened late April (not including the issues facing time..)..

So Sebas is still better than Rogue.. lol

Getting close:


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September 11st. 2013 IMPORTANT NEWS PLEASE READ!!! We working on the last parts of the new script. We hope to be ready before the end of september 2013. So we keep you update about. For now the paid to click and paid to signup page are closed as of change script!!!

Hello MyFreeShares Members!

The new Script is finaly READY!

It had taken us some extra time but yes finaly all is ready.

Many changes are done and more will come!

Some of the changes
- Members that where inactive for 100+ days not earn cash (means higher share earnings)
- All members lose daily 0.15% of your total Shares
- Higher Share Earnings as of above 2 changes
- More Options to earn cash and Shares (comming soon)
- Total new Referral system not earn 1 share direct per referral but earn a % of your referral earnings in 5 levels
- New Payout options

As well all Referral Links are changed. So be sure to use your new referral links you can find them in the member area.!

Further you receive all a new password use this new password to login. Then please change it direct at the user account profile page.

So get in Today, Start Promote again and Make BIG Cash!

Check out some of the upgrades. 400 shares for $50 per month upgrade and you get random referrals for that. 200 shares for $25 per month so that probably replaces the pro offer

With only 6400 referrals, this is like a brand new opportunity!  :)

yesssss, it's up :)

6400 refs ... pffft, I have one lol

ETA  : Hmmm, nooo, I see, you mean 6400 members ... I guess you don't have the entire memebrship in your downline  ;D

ETAbis : Correction, I have a second ref now coming from Clixzor ... gotta love to have tracking on the site :)

sophieca wrote on 11^th Oct, 2013 at 2:29am:

yesssss, it's up :) 6400 refs ... pffft, I have one lol ETA  : Hmmm, nooo, I see, you mean 6400 members ... I guess you don't have the entire memebrship in your downline  ;D ETAbis : Correction, I have a second ref now coming from Clixzor ... gotta love to have tracking on the site :)

Hmmm, 6400 referrals. That wouldn't be too bad  [smiley=selfconf.gif]

I guess Sebas is the one with 6400 referrals  ;D

That new tracking feature is good. It is only basic though. Nothing like what clixsense has but it's a start

But now we don't earn shares from purchasing advertising? At least I can't see that option.

If that's the case then it's kind of a bummer. By upgrading you get shares and the possibility of getting referrals, with unkown earnings %. That's not really worth it, as far as I care.

ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Oct, 2013 at 12:30pm:

But now we don't earn shares from purchasing advertising? At least I can't see that option. If that's the case then it's kind of a bummer. By upgrading you get shares and the possibility of getting referrals, with unkown earnings %. That's not really worth it, as far as I care.

You get shares for the referrals but you also get a good amount of shares from your referral activity

Here are the activity commissions through 5 levels

Level #1 = 25%
Level #2 = 10%
Level #3 = 5%
Level #4 = 3%
Level #5 = 1%

That will really add up after a while. They allowed us to earn shares through downline purchases before but they weren't really being credited. Now we get credits for the activity which is more like a tradition PTC except that the shares give us profit sharing.

BTW, as compensation for a pro offer that went through before the changeover, he gave me a silver upgrade. I should be able to tell how many referrals we get from that (I have a couple huge ads sending referrals to the site now, but when those end I'll know better). The number should be good because he posts links to MFS in donkey mail, no minimum and all his other sites

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Oct, 2013 at 6:25pm:

BTW, as compensation for a pro offer that went through before the changeover, he gave me a silver upgrade. I should be able to tell how many referrals we get from that (I have a couple huge ads sending referrals to the site now, but when those end I'll know better). The number should be good because he posts links to MFS in donkey mail, no minimum and all his other sites

Ahh, so that's who's been advertising it at Neobux.

ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Oct, 2013 at 11:26pm:

Ahh, so that's who's been advertising it at Neobux.

 

[smiley=selfconf.gif] 8-)

Since you've got quite a lot of shares already, this may not matter that much to you. But for someone who's still in an early stage, the new system of gaining shares is less interesting that the last. My goal was to advertise and gain something on the side, eventually getting almost free ads once enough shares had accumulated. As it stands, it works like any other PTC, where you must recruit referrals in order to earn. Not that I have anything against that. It's just that is lost the difference it had to other sites. A place where one could earn by advertising.

I must say I am disappointed with the new system, I started to do some maths and many advantages of MFS before are gone.

For the upgrades for example : If you buy 60 shares for 10$, with today's rate, after 700 days, you'll have more or less 20 shares left and a total of approximately 3.50$ earned. I didn't even finish the maths yet to see if when all your shares are gone you will have even earned back your investment :(

sophieca wrote on 16^th Oct, 2013 at 2:49am:

I must say I am disappointed with the new system, I started to do some maths and many advantages of MFS before are gone. For the upgrades for example : If you buy 60 shares for 10$, with today's rate, after 700 days, you'll have more or less 20 shares left and a total of approximately 3.50$ earned. I didn't even finish the maths yet to see if when all your shares are gone you will have even earned back your investment :(

I think the benefit has shifted more in favor of referring. That is better overall for the site too because it keeps it healthy and growing. Just look at the member numbers. When the reset happened, there were about 6400 members. This is a site that is at least 10 years old. They have added 600 members in 5 days. The benefits for members and cash flow are going to be huge over the long run. Plus you get referrals to 5 levels now, not just one

There comes a point where, if you have enough referrals, you will gain more in daily share earning that you lose in the share 'tax'

I understand what you say but with a cash out at 10$ and the possibility to earn more or less only 0.30 shares a day .... will referrals be active and refer ?

Just the same, why would anyone doing simple maths buy that 10 $ upgrade knowing they probably will lose money ? They count on potential referrals they might maybe receive ?

I know Sebas won't go away and run with our money but for me the site is now a little bit less exciting than before the move. I read that some new ways to earn shares will come, so I cross fingers :)

I agree with Sophie. While a site directed towards referring can be an oportunity for some people, for others it's becomes a very risky bet.

With the former model, we bought something of value (advertising) and got shares. Here we buy something far less tangible (membership with the possibility of getting referrals) and got shares.
But since now everyone loses shares daily, it's becomes really disadvantageous for people who aren't very strong promoters.
If they at least kept the shares with ad purchases, it could appeal to the casual and heavy advertisers. While I'm agree that promoters before got the short end of the stick, now it's the other way around.

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Oct, 2013 at 8:08am:

I think the benefit has shifted more in favor of referring. That is better overall for the site too because it keeps it healthy and growing. Just look at the member numbers. When the reset happened, there were about 6400 members. This is a site that is at least 10 years old. They have added 600 members in 5 days. The benefits for members and cash flow are going to be huge over the long run. Plus you get referrals to 5 levels now, not just one There comes a point where, if you have enough referrals, you will gain more in daily share earning that you lose in the share 'tax'

Yes. Concentrate on the growth. Before we weren't even sure if we were benefiting from the referrals. Now we have more concrete information that we do.

But the share earning rates are so unappealing for that kind of system. Right now, 1 Share = $0.000138 per day
The current amount of PTC ads allows earning ~0.50 shares per day. Since level 1 referrals give 25%, you can earn a daily maximum of 0.125 shares per referral, considering they click all 48 ads.

Promoting isn't exactly free. I find it very hard to get a return on your investment promoting. When working for such small values, I bet many people will give up with time, thus needing a constant flow of new referrals.

But, okay let's say this does work.
The upgrade option is still ridiculous.... For example, $25 for a 1 month membership, where you get 200 shares per month. That's ~2.5 cents per day of earnings. 75 cents per month. There's no increase whatsoever in the referral earning rates. All you get is the chance to get referrals. I never tried that in Donkeymails, but what's the chance of getting referrals through that link insertion thingie?
You also lose 9 shares per month.
If you keep on buying it, you'll eventually reach 6000 shares, at which point the daily earnings compensate the membership cost (assuming earnings per share remains relatively constant). 6000 shares would be $750. In terms of time, it would take 2.5 years.
Yes it would be less using the yearly membership, but it's just to have an idea (I also didn't count the shares lost daily).
That's a pretty big investment in order to start getting some profits, not to mention ROI. And you shouldn't exactly stop halfway, or the daily share loss will eat away at your total share count.

That's a bit of a hardcore upgrade. Since it brings almost nothing of value to active promoters (same referral comissions), I don't see much of a point. It's quite risky if you ask me.

[EDIT] I've been underestimating the effect of the daily -0.15% of shares. Even at the  6000 share count, that's 9 shares you lose per day, or 270 shares per month. That means that even spening $25 every month is not enough to stop your share count from decreasing.[/EDIT]

I'm estimating that you need about 200 first level referrals to offset the share losses on 1000 shares

Actually, even less. I'm getting on average about .01commissions per referral per day and you would lose 1.5 shares per day under that scenario. 200 referrals would produce 2 shares per day so you would be seeing a bit of a profit

And yet 1000 shares currently give you $0.138 per day.
Considering you have to spend a good bit of getting those shares AND getting referrals, it doesn't look that sweet of a deal. Unless of course you've already got all those shares, and you "only" need referrals. Which is the tricky part.

ruicarlov wrote on 16^th Oct, 2013 at 6:56pm:

And yet 1000 shares currently give you $0.138 per day. Considering you have to spend a good bit of getting those shares AND getting referrals, it doesn't look that sweet of a deal. Unless of course you've already got all those shares, and you "only" need referrals. Which is the tricky part.

Yes, that is where I am. I have the shares, I need the referrals. My example shows that it is more beneficial to get referrals at this point.

I'm not sure about how many random referrals you would get from the $50 offer. But I think, over the long term, that is going to be the best deal

The thing is, he did this based on his internal statistics, so he seems to know how his free members will act and what they are willing to click in order to earn shares. If they didn't click for .01 shares I'm sure he wouldn't offer them.

This is one more case of people willing to work for tenths and hundredths of a penny. The problem with many in this industry is that they don't think big enough

That MyFreeShares is a multimedia site itself will help it to grow.

What I don't like about that random referral thing it that we don't have any clues how many unrreferred traffic the site gets. I'm imagining that most traffic comes from members advertising their referral link. Same thing for Donkeymails. Of all the ads I see towards that site, all have some sort of referral link. Which leaves the question. How many self-promoting does sebas do for this site?

Btw, I tried to log in to myfreeshares and failed. Then requested a password reset and my email was not in their database..!?!
When upgrading the script did they clean up accounts too? I logged in every now and then is it possible that I was removed
due to inactivity or something?

MoneyMarketing did you notice me disappearing from your downline?

They did say they removed accounts who were inactive for 100 days.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 2:47pm:

What I don't like about that random referral thing it that we don't have any clues how many unrreferred traffic the site gets. I'm imagining that most traffic comes from members advertising their referral link. Same thing for Donkeymails. Of all the ads I see towards that site, all have some sort of referral link. Which leaves the question. How many self-promoting does sebas do for this site?

Actually, because he has 5 or 6 sites in his network and something like over 500 K members, there is a lot of cross promoting within his sites. Every one of his sites has the box on it that links to the other sites in his network. They go straight to the home page so it is safe to assume an above average number of members have no referral. Also, because he gave me a silver upgrade to compensate for a pro offer I bought before the changeover, I get the free referrals and my stats show quite a few sign ups from google. I don't know what the search terms are but he gets a lot of sign ups straight off the search engines

SolidSnake wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 4:02pm:

Btw, I tried to log in to myfreeshares and failed. Then requested a password reset and my email was not in their database..!?! When upgrading the script did they clean up accounts too? I logged in every now and then is it possible that I was removed due to inactivity or something? MoneyMarketing did you notice me disappearing from your downline?

yep, you got bumped buddy

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 5:20pm:

They did say they removed accounts who were inactive for 100 days.

I'm quite sure I've logged in within September.
Is it possible that they require some kind of activity besides logging in?

Not that I had much in it though.. I didn't promote it or something so there's no loss
and there's always the potential of a fresh start now.

SolidSnake wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 9:26pm:

I'm quite sure I've logged in within September. Is it possible that they require some kind of activity besides logging in? Not that I had much in it though.. I didn't promote it or something so there's no loss and there's always the potential of a fresh start now.

I think you need to click on an ad or buy something. I don't click on ads but I was buying the pro offer so that kept me active. Do you want me to send you the link again?

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 10:13pm:

I think you need to click on an ad or buy something. I don't click on ads but I was buying the pro offer so that kept me active. Do you want me to send you the link again?

I see.. well I still have your link so it's ok. :)

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Oct, 2013 at 2:47pm:

What I don't like about that random referral thing it that we don't have any clues how many unrreferred traffic the site gets. I'm imagining that most traffic comes from members advertising their referral link. Same thing for Donkeymails. Of all the ads I see towards that site, all have some sort of referral link. Which leaves the question. How many self-promoting does sebas do for this site?

I like random referrals and take them when I get them. I rather that a program does provide them than not especially for upgraded memberships. It's like a bonus.

SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Oct, 2013 at 9:07am:

I see.. well I still have your link so it's ok. :)

No promises but down the road I may run your referral link as a thank you.

I was telling Dan that this MFS change has now probably put my online earnings on the compound growth curve(before that I had hit a plateau that my earnings couldn't get past for some reason). If so, I'll be helping those around me as a thanks for getting me here


I believe in throwing down a rope after a boost(and not both ends  ;))

dansbanners wrote on 18^th Oct, 2013 at 3:44pm:

I like random referrals and take them when I get them. I rather that a program does provide them than not especially for upgraded memberships. It's like a bonus.

Yeah sure, I also like random referrals when it's a bonus. By getting a gold membership at Getref, I also got a good number of referrals (most of which I earned 0 credits from). But I got Gold because it had several other advantages that made advertising there cheaper and simpler (extra PTSU credits, bonus credits for referring members,....)
The thing with Myfreeshares memberships is that it's a membership that offers only shares and random referrals. The number of shares you get is very hard to justify the investment.

ruicarlov wrote on 18^th Oct, 2013 at 6:53pm:

Yeah sure, I also like random referrals when it's a bonus. By getting a gold membership at Getref, I also got a good number of referrals (most of which I earned 0 credits from). But I got Gold because it had several other advantages that made advertising there cheaper and simpler (extra PTSU credits, bonus credits for referring members,....) The thing with Myfreeshares memberships is that it's a membership that offers only shares and random referrals. The number of shares you get is very hard to justify the investment.

Actually, even though I don't believe in its PTSU section, I've always liked the log in ads as they've always helped me with my downlines.. also I kinda like the random referrals in GetRef. So far it has helped my stats a lot and now I receive a few credits every now and then.. This is how my refs look like now..


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Referral stats for SOLIDSNAKE Level 1      152 Level 2      162 Level 3      111 Level 4      100 Level 5      11

They also said "More Options to earn cash and Shares (coming soon)" in the e-mail so hopefully it'll help.

Another benefit is that they no longer take shares away for cashing out. They used to do that in the past so we may be losing a small percentage daily but we are getting (edit: some of) it back at cashout.

MFS now has over 8K members! :)

dansbanners wrote on 31^st Oct, 2013 at 12:47pm:

MFS now has over 8K members! :)

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It seems people have really embraced the new MFS.

My average click per referral has gone up to .018 per day and is still rising. I'm hoping it gets to .02  :money

That's kinda difficult to control, isn't it?
You have to make the math everyday since I can only the the accumulated shares my downline had earned me. Can't even tell apart the 1st from the 2nd level.
This makes it hard to know who clicks and who doesn't. This kinda limits some of the advertising strategies I use, since I can't know for sure which referral source is worth it.

ruicarlov wrote on 31^st Oct, 2013 at 7:26pm:

That's kinda difficult to control, isn't it? You have to make the math everyday since I can only the the accumulated shares my downline had earned me. Can't even tell apart the 1st from the 2nd level. This makes it hard to know who clicks and who doesn't. This kinda limits some of the advertising strategies I use, since I can't know for sure which referral source is worth it.

It is not an exact science but with bigger numbers they begin to average out. At some point you'll get people who click every day and some who only click to stay active while others don't click at all. As long as the group is carrying itself, then I can't worry about it

I agree about the tracking. It is better than it used to be since before he had none  ;D I just go with the sites that get referrals in general. At least they let us know that. Since everything I am spending in advertising is coming out of advertising profits, I count it all as a net compound gain. MFS along with some others are 'turning a profit' for me right now so I am reinvesting in the whole comprehensively, tracking where I can and not worrying about the details for those I can't. If some sites get a little charity
advertising along the way, then, so be it. Things are a lot better than they used to be when no one had any tracking

Latest update:

498 referrals and earning 10.32 shares per day from them. That is .0207 shares per referral on average or better than the .02 I was aiming for  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I'm almost half way to compensating for my share 'tax'  :)

Awesome update:

401 first level referrals
603 referrals total (6.9% of all site affiliates)
19.06 shares in commissions daily  :D
Average per affiliate now at .031

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Nov, 2013 at 9:54pm:

Awesome update: 401 first level referrals 603 referrals total (6.9% of all site affiliates) 19.06 shares in commissions daily  :D Average per affiliate now at .031

Those are impressive stats! :)

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Nov, 2013 at 9:54pm:

Awesome update: 401 first level referrals 603 referrals total (6.9% of all site affiliates) 19.06 shares in commissions daily  :D Average per affiliate now at .031

This is wrong. I finally figured out how they calculate this. The commission share number is  total shares earned in commissions. So, in reality, I'm only earning about 2 shares per day, not the 19 that is shown above.

The other numbers are correct, and it looks like I'll need another 3600 referrals before I am in a net share 'profit'  :-[ :dontknow ;D

Of course that it shows the total. I already said that some posts ago. That's why I said it was inconvenient to keep track of referral activity everyday.

I decided to go ahead and try out the silver membership for one month. Let's see how many referrals it brings me.

MyFreeShares now has 9K+ members!

For my team(which is pretty much everyone on here):

I animated the white MFS banner and it does approximately twice as well when it comes to clicks. Sign ups are a bit more difficult to measure since i have the banner in so many places and a lot of referrals already(it is difficult to keep track of the new links that get added to the list. I wish he would add a sort feature or something) but the sign ups seem to be increasing at the same pace as the clicks. You guys are welcome to use it. I'll even host it for you. Here is the link:

http://waterforlife.ws/mfs1.gif

This just goes to show how much more effective simply animating a banner is. That always blows my mind. Catching the viewer's eye is job one.

Hey SS, maybe you might want to think about that regarding your text ads on your ad page. Nothing too fancy, just a slow blink ( [smiley=z03-lol.gif] and that.... of course.... would be..... wait for it....... MORE WORK!  [smiley=lolx.gif] I do that to you every time!  ;D)

10 days of Silver member and two random referrals so far.

So much for getting a decent number of referrals with the upgrades.
Note to all: Stay far, far away from memberships unless you have a really good number of referrals and few shares.

ruicarlov wrote on 2^nd Dec, 2013 at 6:12pm:

10 days of Silver member and two random referrals so far. So much for getting a decent number of referrals with the upgrades. Note to all: Stay far, far away from memberships unless you have a really good number of referrals and few shares.

Yes, the RRs have really dropped off since the changeover. I think a lot more people are getting the upgrade for the RRs and thus diluting the benefit. Apologies if I made it out to sound better than it was

I earn back from my refs daily approximately what I lost during the night from the 0.015% system, so my own clicks help raising my number of shares, don't have many tho : 222 so I earn 3 cents a day !

Am not rich from MFS but I see it going up day by day and I do trust Sebas is not going anywhere.

Sompe must be doing really good there because I see the beenpaid list growing regularly.

moneymarketing wrote on 1^st Dec, 2013 at 1:25am:

For my team(which is pretty much everyone on here): I animated the white MFS banner and it does approximately twice as well when it comes to clicks. Sign ups are a bit more difficult to measure since i have the banner in so many places and a lot of referrals already(it is difficult to keep track of the new links that get added to the list. I wish he would add a sort feature or something) but the sign ups seem to be increasing at the same pace as the clicks. You guys are welcome to use it. I'll even host it for you. Here is the link: http://waterforlife.ws/mfs1.gif This just goes to show how much more effective simply animating a banner is. That always blows my mind. Catching the viewer's eye is job one. Hey SS, maybe you might want to think about that regarding your text ads on your ad page. Nothing too fancy, just a slow blink ( [smiley=z03-lol.gif] and that.... of course.... would be..... wait for it....... MORE WORK!  [smiley=lolx.gif] I do that to you every time!  ;D)

Btw, if you would like me to, I could switch your banner on the Ads page to this one.. (Make sure you have unlimited bandwidth..)
As for the text links it would be really bad for the looks.. the point with blinking is that it is effective as long as it happens
at small amounts.. consider how you would feel if you visit a page where everything is blinking.. lol :)
Sometime a nice looking colorful design is even better than blinking.. check this out.. it's the clicks from the last week on the Ads page :

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1254/na3x.png
Notice how the 7clix banner attracts the clicks.. :)

Btw, I could make an attempt to create you a fresh banner if I get some time since I also need one..
I'll get back to you on that.

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Dec, 2013 at 6:51pm:

Btw, if you would like me to, I could switch your banner on the Ads page to this one.. (Make sure you have unlimited bandwidth..) As for the text links it would be really bad for the looks.. the point with blinking is that it is effective as long as it happens at small amounts.. consider how you would feel if you visit a page where everything is blinking.. lol :) Sometime a nice looking colorful design is even better than blinking.. check this out.. it's the clicks from the last week on the Ads page : http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1254/na3x.png Notice how the 7clix banner attracts the clicks.. :) Btw, I could make an attempt to create you a fresh banner if I get some time since I also need one.. I'll get back to you on that.

Yes and yes. I was hoping to get a good MFS banner going but in the mean time you can swap mine out. You are definitely a level up from me in regards to banner making.  :)

Now if we could only get him to change the site colors back to white from red.  ;D

Sometimes we fix the wrong things. That red is a little too flashy for me

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Dec, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Yes and yes. I was hoping to get a good MFS banner going but in the mean time you can swap mine out. You are definitely a level up from me in regards to banner making.  :) Now if we could only get him to change the site colors back to white from red.  ;D Sometimes we fix the wrong things. That red is a little too flashy for me

Actually red is a bit too "brain burning".. Something more neutral would be good..
I also don't like plain white.. but some light (blue, green, purple..) color would be much better.

And the guy seriously needs an organized members menu.. it has always been so messy that makes it
rather hard to navigate.. It took me a couple of minutes, until I found the downline page the first time..

I'm working on the banner, btw..

Here is my version :

With Border : http://imageshack.com/a/img823/7579/8q0.gif
http://imageshack.com/a/img823/7579/8q0.gif

Borderless : http://imageshack.com/a/img27/2056/js1s.gif
http://imageshack.com/a/img27/2056/js1s.gif

I placed the borderless one on your ad..
Let me know if you don't like it.. (...impossible... :P)

SolidSnake wrote on 9^th Dec, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Here is my version : With Border : http://imageshack.com/a/img823/7579/8q0.gif http://imageshack.com/a/img823/7579/8q0.gif Borderless : http://imageshack.com/a/img27/2056/js1s.gif http://imageshack.com/a/img27/2056/js1s.gif I placed the borderless one on your ad.. Let me know if you don't like it.. (...impossible... :P)

Awesome! They look great. I can't wait to test them out  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

Fortunately, it seems there are more ads recently. Thanks to that, I manage to keep my 593 shares more or less constant if I click every d*mned thing everyday.

ruicarlov wrote on 4^th Jan, 2014 at 2:33pm:

Fortunately, it seems there are more ads recently. Thanks to that, I manage to keep my 593 shares more or less constant if I click every d*mned thing everyday.

Yep, I hear you. I'm still losing about 20 shares per day but at least my revenue sharing cash is staying constant so I am making a net profit. I'm not focusing on promoting it for now. All my focus has shifted to YGP as I near the 10 share mark and my first upgrade via points

20 shares per day. That's gotta hurt  :o

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.....

ruicarlov wrote on 4^th Jan, 2014 at 3:22pm:

20 shares per day. That's gotta hurt  :o The bigger they are, the harder they fall.....

No, it is not too bad. I'm earning about $2.20 per day or about $66 per month. That pays for a gold upgrade each month with cash left over so I gain 400 shares back even after I lose 600 shares. My net loss is 200 shares per month plus $16+ in net profits. Not much but it is a profit. I will hit par at 13 shares lost per day assuming my referrals do nothing

That share loss goes down a bit every day and my referral share gains go up so I am slowly getting close to par. I still have over 14K shares so it will be a while before I run out. I guess the best part is that everyone else's shares on the site are dropping as fast as mine so the cash payouts are not changing much

If I were to make an effort and sink all my cash flow into promoting MFS, I could probably build the referral base to offset my losses but, as I said, that is not the best use of my resources. Right now YGP is the best investment I can make. If MFS wants to improve things for us a bit, I might change my mind. Until then, I need to allocate my resources to the sites that give me the best ROI

500 first line referrals!  :D

834 total and earning around $2.70 per day so my net monthly profit, after the gold upgrade, is over $30.

Humble but I'll take it. It all adds up to the daily earning total  :cool1

I am a member of MFS, and I have 13 shares now..

Morres wrote on 26^th Jan, 2014 at 1:57am:

I am a member of MFS, and I have 13 shares now..

Good job my friend, and welcome to the forum.
Btw, how long have you been working on MFS?

SolidSnake wrote on 26^th Jan, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Good job my friend, and welcome to the forum. Btw, how long have you been working on MFS?

Almost 2 months...

Well FINALLY! For the first time ever I earned $3 in a day @ MFS. Let's hope it is the beginning of many more!  :cool1

moneymarketing wrote on 19^th Mar, 2014 at 6:26am:

Well FINALLY! For the first time ever I earned $3 in a day @ MFS. Let's hope it is the beginning of many more!  :cool1

Whoa! May you earn more! 8-)

Some MyFreeShares news...


Quote:

MyFreeShares NewsLetter Great News! Today finaly a new Newsletter! After the relaunch in october last year we worked hard to higher up the earnings per share. Till now we doubled almost the earnings per share and we working up to double this again as well. We see great things happend with the shares and earnings, so hopefully we can double the earnings per share again in the next 6 months if we get this worked out the earnings per share are then 4 times as higher as before! But we have more great News. Added Last Days! MyFreeShares Earning Guide -> Learn how to earn shares and cash at myfreeshares! Guaranteed Cash PTC ads -> You can now earn at least 2.5 cent daily with the new Cash clicks. So you now can earn direct cash but ofcourse as well shares for daily share earnings New Paid Offers -> 3 New Share Paid Offers now 2800 Shares to earn via the paid offers! And much more will come in the near future! Some things that come in future are! 1. More Paid Share Offers 2. New Plugings like raffle and more! 3. Coop advertising so everyone can make referrals at MyFreeShares 4. Many more share signup offers include daily offers and country specific orders. What does this means for you! Easier To reach payout -> As you can earn now a lot more! Referrals will be more worth for you -> With the 2.5 cent extra earnings daily the referral earnings can grow up high! Notice that you can have unlimited referrals at MyFreeShares and we even offer a 5 level referral program so if your referrals make referrals you earn as well from them! So be sure to make more referrals. Grab your referral Link today!

I like this news :)

sophieca wrote on 24^th Mar, 2014 at 10:42pm:

I like this news :)

Yes, good to see he is still competing and improving the opportunity. You can't afford to sit back in this industry. There is just too much competition waiting to eat your lunch

1000 downline! YES! I'm very happy about that. It happened quicker than expected since I haven't really focused on promoting it lately  :)

Way to go mate!  :cool1

moneymarketing wrote on 30^th Mar, 2014 at 5:55am:

1000 downline! YES! I'm very happy about that. It happened quicker than expected since I haven't really focused on promoting it lately  :)

Compounding growth! 8-)

Am I the only one who's experiencing a mysql_fetch_array() error when I'm on the ad list?

ruicarlov wrote on 5^th Apr, 2014 at 11:30pm:

Am I the only one who's experiencing a mysql_fetch_array() error when I'm on the ad list?

I guess so... :-/
I can view both the "Shares and Cash to Click" and "Shares to Click" pages fine..

SolidSnake wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 1:11am:

I guess so... :-/ I can view both the "Shares and Cash to Click" and "Shares to Click" pages fine..

Works fine here too.

I took the Gold Upgrade Plunge, so we'll see what happens.  Chose that because it also has $16 in advertising.   Also, 10x referral rate (whatever that means).

mgbland79705 wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 4:14am:

I took the Gold Upgrade Plunge, so we'll see what happens.  Chose that because it also has $16 in advertising.   Also, 10x referral rate (whatever that means).

Well, please keep us updated on how it goes.. :)
The 10x referral rate means that you will be in high priority in receiving free referrals that sign up without a referrer, which means you get better chances to receive some free referrals..


Quote:

Free Referrals - Your referral url will be 10 x randomly inserted for surfers visiting the web site without a referral url

By the way does the program offer free referrals (1 x) to standard members?

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 2:56am:

Works fine here too.

Today is back to normal. Must've been some hours when it was down.

Hi mgbland79705,

Welcome back. Good to see you here!

ruicarlov wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 3:30pm:

Today is back to normal. Must've been some hours when it was down.

you must have been zappng it with your super powers. In your heart you are not sure about this program mighty one?

SolidSnake wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 1:59pm:

Well, please keep us updated on how it goes.. :)

Yes, for someone like me it is a no brainer to buy the upgrade because I make more in cash per month than it costs me for the upgrade. So it is my way of supporting the site, getting 'free' advertising and maintain my share base. I'm curious to know if it is a good value for people who don't have a truckload of shares. Sebas said that the per share value has risen over time, so maybe the deal is getting better for them



Quote:

By the way does the program offer free referrals (1 x) to standard members?

No, it is just 2x for bronze, 5x for silver and 10x for gold. I assume maybe it is 1x for the site. That might be something to suggest to Sebas as a way to increase the value to free members that doesn't cost him much (although that may be where he makes his profit, I'm not sure)

SolidSnake wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 1:59pm:

Well, please keep us updated on how it goes.. :) The 10x referral rate means that you will be in high priority in receiving free referrals that sign up without a referrer, which means you get better chances to receive some free referrals.. By the way does the program offer free referrals (1 x) to standard members?

Just looking at the referral priority for non-upgraded members at My Free Shares, and it reads "None."   Going into this, I made another redemption in thepaidhelp to see where I started.  Currently I've almost cut my shares in half since the change over, and I'm losing about a half a share a day.   But, daily income is close to what it was right after the change over.

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th Apr, 2014 at 4:12pm:

I'm curious to know if it is a good value for people who don't have a truckload of shares. Sebas said that the per share value has risen over time, so maybe the deal is getting better for them

Not really. I totally regret buying it. It's not worth it when you've got few referrals and the random referrals is almost nil.

Sebas upgraded me fast!  So far no referrals, if they're a little slow, that means no bots referrals.

He's also set up the advertising page.

Two downline already! 

mgbland79705 wrote on 8^th Apr, 2014 at 5:40pm:

Two downline already!

That's good to know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Anybody notice their share totals going up? Mine have started climbing ever since Sebas stopped the daily share reporting (I asked him about this on my last upgrade and he said it was due to script overload that he stopped it). Since then my shares have been climbing daily. I didn't think about it at first but it seems they are growing by a couple percentage points per day and my downline count is also growing(though that could be to my team promoting). I also notice that on the front page he is guaranteeing a certain number of ads per day (2.5 cents worth). I wonder if that is part of the reason?

Anyway, it seems like things are getting better at MFS

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 8:41am:

Anyway, it seems like things are getting better at MFS

Yes, I also noticed that my downline earnings has been better lately.

Wow, suddenly I went from my usual 585 shares (it was more or less stabilized) to 640 shares.

Did he stop converting shares daily and deducting the 0.15%?

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 6:33pm:

Wow, suddenly I went from my usual 585 shares (it was more or less stabilized) to 640 shares. Did he stop converting shares daily and deducting the 0.15%?

I don't know. I'm hoping it is not a glitch. Maybe a lot of folks were getting angry about losing shares. I just hope this is the way it is supposed to be. I'm almost afraid to ask  ;D

I'm pretty sure it has to do with that daily ads guarantee.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 6:33pm:

Wow, suddenly I went from my usual 585 shares (it was more or less stabilized) to 640 shares. Did he stop converting shares daily and deducting the 0.15%?

It's driving me nuts so I had to ask him. We'll probably find out by tomorrow

I hope I didn't just do something stupid.

I'll be honest but poor  :beatup

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 10:09pm:

It's driving me nuts so I had to ask him. We'll probably find out by tomorrow I hope I didn't just do something stupid. I'll be honest but poor  :beatup

You'd be even more poor if you caused the system to break down with some extreme earnings.. so it's probably good for you in the long term too..
Plus you'll keep your conscience clean.. :)

I think we may not be getting our shares converted into cash daily either, so you did well to ask.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 10:53pm:

I think we may not be getting our shares converted into cash daily either, so you did well to ask.

Yes, I think that is where the difference is. I wonder if that will end up costing us more because we will lose a larger percentage of shares each day (so it looks like we are getting more but we are actually getting less. I hope not)

I am watching the figures and really don't understand anything anymore, wished he explained a bit better :(

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Apr, 2014 at 10:09pm:

It's driving me nuts so I had to ask him. We'll probably find out by tomorrow I hope I didn't just do something stupid. I'll be honest but poor  :beatup

Here is his reply:


Quote:

No this happend as of an error on script. We working on this to get it fixed

I hadda ask.  >:(

At least I didn't notify him to the problem.  ::)

I should just eliminate the middle man and go straight to this post more often

It looks like the cash is going up and the shares are going down again so all is back to normal I suppose  :)

I just checked my share balance against the shares we had when the site was all glitchy (4/16).

My balances were Shares 15311.8649 cash 187.994
Today: Shares 15,128.7093 cash 253.20

So it looks like he definitely changed the site for the better. I'm still earning around $3 per day (I made sure to keep an eye on that stat) but before he changed things my share total probably would have dropped by about 480 shares. Instead it is down by 183, so that is a 60%+ improvement  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yes, we got a raise!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th May, 2014 at 3:56pm:

I just checked my share balance against the shares we had when the site was all glitchy (4/16). My balances were Shares 15311.8649 cash 187.994 Today: Shares 15,128.7093 cash 253.20 So it looks like he definitely changed the site for the better. I'm still earning around $3 per day (I made sure to keep an eye on that stat) but before he changed things my share total probably would have dropped by about 480 shares. Instead it is down by 183, so that is a 60%+ improvement  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Yes, we got a raise!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's good know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

1100 referrals!

That is 7.8% of all site referrals.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Who says we are not beneficial for sites? Not me!  8-)

moneymarketing wrote on 24^th May, 2014 at 2:15pm:

1100 referrals! That is 7.8% of all site referrals.  [smiley=12-party.gif] Who says we are not beneficial for sites? Not me!  8-)

Good for you moneymarketing! 8-)

I'm now up to 40 referrals from my upgrade.  The gold members are now getting 1/2-cent ptcs, and the other upgrades are getting 1/4 and 1/10 cent ads.   

Noticed the their sidebar of the 15,000+ members, only 4,600+ are considered active.

mgbland79705 wrote on 24^th Jul, 2014 at 4:15pm:

I'm now up to 40 referrals from my upgrade.  The gold members are now getting 1/2-cent ptcs, and the other upgrades are getting 1/4 and 1/10 cent ads.    Noticed the their sidebar of the 15,000+ members, only 4,600+ are considered active.

Well, I'd say that 4600 out of 15000 is a great activity rate.. :)
There are sites with 100000+ members while much less than 10000 are active..

mgbland79705 wrote on 24^th Jul, 2014 at 4:15pm:

I'm now up to 40 referrals from my upgrade.  The gold members are now getting 1/2-cent ptcs, and the other upgrades are getting 1/4 and 1/10 cent ads.    Noticed the their sidebar of the 15,000+ members, only 4,600+ are considered active.

Hi mgbland,

Good to see you here. How have you been?

I did have a 1-month upgrade some time ago, but the $10 minimum cost didn't seem worth it, since it was only some shares and didn't get many referrals.
What do you get on those "Fill in ads for Upgraded Members"?

ruicarlov wrote on 27^th Aug, 2014 at 1:40pm:

I did have a 1-month upgrade some time ago, but the $10 minimum cost didn't seem worth it, since it was only some shares and didn't get many referrals. What do you get on those "Fill in ads for Upgraded Members"?

You get what is outlined here:

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/gold.php

I meant that there's a section called "Fill in ads for Upgraded Members" which I can't access since I'm not upgraded. I just wanted to know what's inside.

ruicarlov wrote on 27^th Aug, 2014 at 10:06pm:

I meant that there's a section called "Fill in ads for Upgraded Members" which I can't access since I'm not upgraded. I just wanted to know what's inside.

All it does is provide links to put your ads in based on what ads you get when you upgrade. So for example as a gold you'll get one link each to fill in the ad for the 100K banners, the 1k clicks and the 5k clicks. Once you do that it is just an empty page

OR, I could say, you'll just have to upgrade to find out MWA HA HA HA!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 28^th Aug, 2014 at 7:01am:

All it does is provide links to put your ads in based on what ads you get when you upgrade. So for example as a gold you'll get one link each to fill in the ad for the 100K banners, the 1k clicks and the 5k clicks. Once you do that it is just an empty page OR, I could say, you'll just have to upgrade to find out MWA HA HA HA!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Oh, now I think I wanna upgrade there just to get able to see that empty page one day!  ;D

Maybe there is a hidden white pixel with a link there that if you click you will get a code key to a hidden treasure or sth.
Or it could be a mark on google maps!

OMG! I just got the idea of hidden google treasure maps! Can I trademark that?  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Well, you could start here. Secret treasures on ptcbox.me. Hidden in a pixel somewhere on the ads page.
Whoever finds it gets a 1 month banner or something  ;D
That way you could get people to take a really good and long look at all the banners and other ads trying to find that pixel somewhere  [smiley=crazy.gif]

Hmm.. well but there's no treasure map this way.. :P
Anyways, I've been thinking lately about a competition or sth, that would motivate people to decide to come back to the site..

I've been thinking about a contest, maybe I could add a poll where people could be voting their favorite PTC.
Then one of the people that are voting could be a winner of free banner or featured link advertising.

And votes will count once every 24 hours. This way people would like to vote as many times as possible to be part of the competition.

After a year of activity here, I should start creating some natural traffic on my ads page, not only driven by other sites.
I could say that I "want" people that "want" to visit my site, not just be referred to it.. :)

So, could we at least have a screenshot of that blank page in MFS? It sounds sooo exciting!
Would I be in trouble with copyrights if I "copied" them and add a blank page on my site as well?!?

It is not blank per se. Here is what you see when you get there. You see a regular MFS page like this except under the news it is blank.

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/enter.php

The text there says this:

Upgraded Membership Bonus Ads

You have used all your free ads already.

NO MYSTERY KIDDIES!  ;D

moneymarketing wrote on 28^th Aug, 2014 at 8:29pm:

It is not blank per se. Here is what you see when you get there. You see a regular MFS page like this except under the news it is blank. http://myfreeshares.com/pages/enter.php The text there says this: Upgraded Membership Bonus Ads You have used all your free ads already. NO MYSTERY KIDDIES!  ;D

Well... that's it!!

"You have used all your free ads already."

Maybe this is an encoded message that you have to decode to get to the map.. :P   :D

SolidSnake wrote on 28^th Aug, 2014 at 9:53pm:

Well... that's it!! "You have used all your free ads already." Maybe this is an encoded message that you have to decode to get to the map.. :P   :D

OH MAN!........You guys are worse than conspiracy theorists! (that should get your google searches spinning)   :dontknow

moneymarketing wrote on 28^th Aug, 2014 at 11:18pm:

OH MAN!........You guys are worse than conspiracy theorists! (that should get your google searches spinning)   :dontknow

Well, at least we're joking.. :)

In fact this is how conspiracy theorists think.. they want to believe something and they just do it.. :)
Afterwards, one theory follows the other and none of them has anything true as a base..
It's like the movie "the number 23".. it starts with an idea and ends with an obsession.. :)

Share bleed seems to be slowing down somewhat these days. I haven't watched it too closely. That is with 1367 referrals and 629 on the first level. Next month I'll be buying my first yearly gold upgrade for $500 in site cash so that will save me $100 over the gold upgrade if I had purchased monthly. That will allow me to start buying some advertising there with site earnings. Top banners seem to be most effective

Share balance on may 10th (previous post in this thread) 15,128.7093
Share balance today 14,235.8417 (I'll use this for a reference in a few months)

So that is an average net loss of about 223 shares per month after the gold upgrade. I'm currently earning about $90 per month before upgrade or net $40

Just crossed the 1400 referral level. 641 first level  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Also ten days of earnings away from affording a one year gold upgrade

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 9:05pm:

Just crossed the 1400 referral level. 641 first level  [smiley=12-party.gif] Also ten days of earnings away from affording a one year gold upgrade

Those are awesome stats mate!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 9:05pm:

Just crossed the 1400 referral level. 641 first level  [smiley=12-party.gif] Also ten days of earnings away from affording a one year gold upgrade

Awesome stats! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 11:29pm:

Awesome stats! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks guys. Yes those referral blasts at CS and NB really set me flying. I suppose having Rui and Dan in my downlines helped a bit too  [smiley=selfconf.gif]

[smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

1 year gold upgrade request paid for with site earnings sent!  :D

Now I can use my site earnings for their quite effective banner advertising  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 18^th Oct, 2014 at 2:19pm:

1 year gold upgrade request paid for with site earnings sent!  :D Now I can use my site earnings for their quite effective banner advertising  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

done!

I think that is my single biggest PTC related  transaction ever. What was the PTCBox value? Was it $600? I can't remember. If so then this is the single biggest legitimate cash transaction ever.  ;D I just checked at CS and the highest I went there is $280, so that is not even close

We're growing! that is the important part. I hope for the day of announcing $1,000+ transactions. If PV keeps at it, it could happen next year. Maybe THEN I'll make some withdrawals  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Wow! It sure adds up fast. I bought my yearly upgrade on the 19th so I have been accumulating cash since then. I just finished earning and cashing in $50 for a 1 million banner ad. That is free and clear advertising. Not costing me a cent. I'm losing the cash out value of course but I'm also keeping the site strong by reinvesting the cash. I'll earn that back and the banners I get will be free.

I bought a PV banner BTW. MFS is pretty good for PV referrals

After all these years I'm finally seeing some benefits from all that compound growth  :cool1

1505 referrals.

The rate at which it is growing seems to be speeding up too  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yes, I just looked over the old posts. That is just over a month for 100 referrals

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Nov, 2014 at 10:08pm:

1505 referrals. The rate at which it is growing seems to be speeding up too  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Yes, I just looked over the old posts. That is just over a month for 100 referrals

Good for you! 8-)

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Nov, 2014 at 10:08pm:

1505 referrals. The rate at which it is growing seems to be speeding up too  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Yes, I just looked over the old posts. That is just over a month for 100 referrals

Wow! That's a great increasing speed!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I wish I could get that rate for any program online! :)

Great deal on at MFS.

1 million top banner impressions $24.99. Either paid with cash or for site cash redeemed. Normally $50 so this is like a 2 for 1 Black Friday deal.

They are top banners so they are usually quite responsive compared to other banner impressions

moneymarketing wrote on 21^st Sep, 2014 at 5:48pm:

Share bleed seems to be slowing down somewhat these days. I haven't watched it too closely. That is with 1367 referrals and 629 on the first level. Next month I'll be buying my first yearly gold upgrade for $500 in site cash so that will save me $100 over the gold upgrade if I had purchased monthly. That will allow me to start buying some advertising there with site earnings. Top banners seem to be most effective Share balance on may 10th (previous post in this thread) 15,128.7093 Share balance today 14,235.8417 (I'll use this for a reference in a few months) So that is an average net loss of about 223 shares per month after the gold upgrade. I'm currently earning about $90 per month before upgrade or net $40

I haven't updated this for a while. It has been about 7 months since the quoted post

share balance 12,811

Share bleed has dropped to 203 per month

Average daily earnings based on the last 10 days are $3.17 or $95 per month with $331 on account for my next yearly gold upgrade. When it crosses $500 then I'll put everything towards advertising at the site until my renewal comes again. Then the savings cycle starts over

Referral count is 1943 with 676 on the first level. I'm  not advertising the site that much so I think most of the referrals are random. That only works out to 6 per month which isn't that great but everything else is pretty good. It is paying for itself and producing a couple million hits of free banner impressions per month so I'm happy about that.

A recent email from Sebas suggested some improvements are upcoming so that is encouraging to hear. Anything positive is a bonus at this point. So that is what 10+ years of work in the PTC industry can produce in one site  ;D

New feature introduced:

Buy and sell shares

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/tradepoints.php

Quote:

MyFreeShares Super Referral Contest! 07/01/2015 00:00 - 08/31/2015 23:59 / 5000000 members MyFreeShares Super Referral Contest! $1150 on Real Cash to WIN! And 1 Share Bonus For each Referral during Contest!.

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/refcontests.php?id=1?refid=

So I have now saved enough @ MFS to pay for next year's one year gold upgrade. The good news is that my current upgrade doesn't expire until 10/19. So anything I make between now and then can be used for advertising purposes.

That's four months of free advertising  [smiley=12-party.gif]  8-)

And to think, it only took about 12 years to get there  ;D

Two bits of info:

1. Google is now labeling this an attack site. Possibly because of viruses associated with advertisers.

2. It looks like daily earnings have increased by about 15% in the last little while. I assume that this is due to the share 'tax' that he imposed and that it is finally cutting down many people's shares

Looking at a program's been paid page is good if you'd like to get some ideas on whether or not the program is growing, sustainable or trustworthy.

If it shows that the program either hasn't paid in a long time or there's a long delay between the date requested and date paid, it's usually a red flag.

dansbanners wrote on 17^th Oct, 2015 at 10:49pm:

Looking at a program's been paid page is good if you'd like to get some ideas on whether or not the program is growing, sustainable or trustworthy. If it shows that the program either hasn't paid in a long time or there's a long delay between the date requested and date paid, it's usually a red flag.

Yes, that's true though I usually don't look at it because I find it tends to be a bit of a gimmick. It also wouldn't be difficult for clever webmaster to fake something like that

moneymarketing wrote on 18^th Oct, 2015 at 4:09am:

Yes, that's true though I usually don't look at it because I find it tends to be a bit of a gimmick. It also wouldn't be difficult for clever webmaster to fake something like that

Look at it this way, why would a program fake "not paying the members" or even "the long time delay between the payments".

My experience tells me that "been paid" pages are usually reliable. Showing that the more they stop paying the members or even have a longer time delay in between, the more likely they'll eventually go belly up.

There were times I literally did not join a program cause I didn't like what I saw in the been paid page and it usually turned out to be the right decision.

dansbanners wrote on 18^th Oct, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Look at it this way, why would a program fake "not paying the members" or even "the long time delay between the payments". My experience tells me that "been paid" pages are usually reliable. Showing that the more they stop paying the members or even have a longer time delay in between, the more likely they'll eventually go belly up. There were times I literally did not join a program cause I didn't like what I saw in the been paid page and it usually turned out to be the right decision.

Well, if you're running a fly by night then falsifying potential earnings and payments are the way to get a flood of new members. That is how  ponzi's operate. They are all about hyping up their potential on the very short term. For sites that have been around a while, yes, I'll agree that this is much too much work and so you probably won't see this page if they are building the 'long con' or else they will keep the payments legit for a while to build confidence

I'm not saying that all been paid pages falsify like this, I'm just saying that it would not be difficult if you had a specific game plan in mind. Just because a page indicates certain data it doesn't mean they are telling the truth. People lie and when it comes to taking your money from across the world, they lie even more. Many of them know that a guy that is taken for $20 - $1000 is not going to travel across the world to get his money back  because it wouldn't be worth it. So they let it go chalking it up as a lesson learned

The BP page doesn't make a huge difference in my site investment style. If I am going into a site I am going to invest a speculative amount of cash (if I can't start it reasonably for free) and work the advertising angle and build up my cash flow before I'll think of taking income out. So it doesn't enter into my 'red flag' criteria

If the guy wants to steal that cash I'll consider it a charitable contribution from my online earnings. It won't be enough for him to retire on so he will be stuck with his scamming character for the rest of his life and that usually is its own reward

I don't think programs would lie about making $0.15 payments?

And if you don't get paid, doesn't necessarily always indicate that it's a scam. Cause there were times that some programs did pay regularly at first. Only to eventually take longer in between payments and then go belly up. Some had been paying for years before they ceased to exist. I've been a member of such programs.

Use Fiendcat Referrals as an example. Do you think it was a scam? I think the owner eventually just lost his drive, feeling it wasn't worth the time, energy and money.

dansbanners wrote on 19^th Oct, 2015 at 3:03am:

I don't think programs would lie about making $0.15 payments? And if you don't get paid, doesn't necessarily always indicate that it's a scam. Cause there were times that some programs did pay regularly at first. Only to eventually take longer in between payments and then go belly up. Some had been paying for years before they ceased to exist. I've been a member of such programs. Use Fiendcat Referrals as an example. Do you think it was a scam? I think the owner eventually just lost his drive, feeling it wasn't worth the time, energy and money.

actually, I do think it turned scammy at the end because I seem to recall he was still taking payments but not paying out and that is the trademark of a scammer. Even if he meant well up to that point the end was dishonorable

(I moved the conversation here as it's kind of a more appropriate place for it)

As for the "Paid list" sometimes you can learn a lot of things about the site.. etc. if the distance between payments is long it would mean that it takes long to get paid (but maybe that the site is actually legit only not strong enough).

If it is full of payments on the other hand you can take a look at the members that are getting paid.
If some of them are active in the forum and post their proofs there as well, but also contribute in discussions you can tell that the site is paying real people..

Some admins in the past have been creating fake accounts that belong to them just to emulate payments that were actually getting back to the same person but they were being added to the list.. but those accounts were never active on the forum which was fishy.

The amounts paid could also play a good part in identifying the good standing of a site.. so yep, we can learn a lot from them.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 20^th Oct, 2015 at 12:44pm:

(I moved the conversation here as it's kind of a more appropriate place for it) As for the "Paid list" sometimes you can learn a lot of things about the site.. etc. if the distance between payments is long it would mean that it takes long to get paid (but maybe that the site is actually legit only not strong enough). If it is full of payments on the other hand you can take a look at the members that are getting paid. If some of them are active in the forum and post their proofs there as well, but also contribute in discussions you can tell that the site is paying real people.. Some admins in the past have been creating fake accounts that belong to them just to emulate payments that were actually getting back to the same person but they were being added to the list.. but those accounts were never active on the forum which was fishy. The amounts paid could also play a good part in identifying the good standing of a site.. so yep, we can learn a lot from them.. :)

Yes, this is a great discussion. Now I never knew about owners and the fake accounts. This is what I mean about finding ways to scam people. If they are determined enough, they can do it.

Similar to sites that deliver 'phantom hits' or of course the famous rented referrals  ;D

yes, there are many tricks so we need to always be on our guard, test everything and never jump in with a huge amount of investment

Another good rule of thumb is if you need to invest a lot up front then there might be a problem but the two year rule (existence time) solves most of these. By the time the second year rolls around the community will have sniffed you out and discovered your legitimacy

So the math works out that you need about 9000 shares with the gold upgrade to maintain your cash flow and share base. @ 9k you lose about 13 (.15%) shares per day in the conversion which is 4745 per year (13 * 365). You get 4800 shares for a yearly gold upgrade (plus monthly advertising)

The yearly gold upgrade costs $500 or $41.67 per month. with those 9K shares you will earn about $95.83 per month at current rates. That is about $54 of net earnings or advertising plus the advertising the site provides monthly with your upgrade and doesn't include any random referrals you get

Interesting. I never tought of making those calculations.
Very useful.
Going Gold with that many refs may be a bit of a stretch for me right now, since I'm still sitting at 388 shares. But given how much the earnings per share have increase (I remember earning 11 cents per day with 600 shares), upgrading might be interesting now. Maybe a Silver upgrade. It's half the prices and you get half the shares.
Bronze isn't so interesting, since it's 40% of Silver price, but you only get 30% of the shares. So the ratio of shares per dollar isn't attractive.

With a Silver upgrade you get 2400 shares per year. With 2400 shares, you lose 1314 shares per year. At current earnings you Silver costs 250/12= $20.83 per month and you earn $24.
And that's rounding down, since every month you get more shares than you lose. Not a bad deal, since the account keeps growing at this pace.

I saw that my shares were still running down so I wanted to calculate where the minimum would be. I'm at about 11,500 now and still losing about 50 shares of 400 per month so it should take a few years to get down to the 9k level

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th Apr, 2015 at 9:15am:

share balance 12,811 Share bleed has dropped to 203 per month Average daily earnings based on the last 10 days are $3.17 or $95 per month with $331 on account for my next yearly gold upgrade. When it crosses $500 then I'll put everything towards advertising at the site until my renewal comes again. Then the savings cycle starts over Referral count is 1943 with 676 on the first level. I'm  not advertising the site that much so I think most of the referrals are random. That only works out to 6 per month which isn't that great but everything else is pretty good. It is paying for itself and producing a couple million hits of free banner impressions per month so I'm happy about that.

It's been over a year (1 yr, 5 months) since I last updated this. A few things have changed  :)

Total share balance is now 10,961.7118

I lost 1849.2882 shares over that time / 17 months or an average share bleed of 109 per month. The bleed has dropped by almost half as I get close to that balance mark around 9k

Daily earnings have gone to over $4 over that time and settled back to around the $3.40 range. If not impressive, they have remained consistent

The earnings have gone up to $102.30 per month with a monthly cost of $41.67 for the gold upgrade if you average it out. So net earnings are up to $60.63 per month after all costs

That also includes 100K free banner impressions per month for gold upgrades plus three ad packs of 5000 unique hits, 1000 unique hits and 1000 unique hits to upgraded members. I usually use those hit packs to get donkey mails PTP and PTP point ads as well as a no minimum PTP ad, so that adds to the net earnings

With a random referral priority of 10, my referral count has gone up to 3842 total with 899 first level

That is a gain of 1899 or almost 112 per month for the total and 223 or 13 per month for my first level

Those numbers might seem impressive at first but I'm not earning very much from my referrals that I can see. Most of my earnings come from my shares but the stats don't make it very clear. The site has never been much of a referring site

all in all I am satisfied with the site. How can you not be with $60 in free cash and a good amount of free advertising each month for almost no work (10 minutes per month). I'm also starting to cash out some to use in other areas. Usually $20 to $40 per month. The site is great for building my payza balances. Sebas always pays quickly so there is that

I'm a Silver upgraded member. And will stick with it as long it's being paid for. I'm also promoting DM PTP in it.

By the way, are you aware that there's currently a referral contest going on?

dansbanners wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 12:49am:

I'm a Silver upgraded member. And will stick with it as long it's being paid for. I'm also promoting DM PTP in it. By the way, are you aware that there's currently a referral contest going on?

Yes, I saw that

Now, I have 110 referrals in my downline. 8-)

dansbanners wrote on 13^th Sep, 2016 at 1:41pm:

Now, I have 110 referrals in my downline. 8-)

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moneymarketing wrote on 13^th Sep, 2016 at 6:26pm:

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I could see that my downline has expanded being an upgraded member. :)

Today my Silver membership has expired. I'm now sitting at 2113 shares (had around 388 1 year ago when I bought the upgrade).

Monthly earnings are about $17.8, while the membership cost is 20.83$. Earnings per share are a bit lower than my calculations last year, so I still didn't reach the break-even point yet. If earnings don't change much, I'll probably reach it once I have around 2500 shares.
I have 307 referrals, but they're not bringing much, I believe. I don't really remember how many I had one year ago. Apparently I did not note it down.

ruicarlov wrote on 30^th Nov, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Today my Silver membership has expired. I'm now sitting at 2113 shares (had around 388 1 year ago when I bought the upgrade). Monthly earnings are about $17.8, while the membership cost is 20.83$. Earnings per share are a bit lower than my calculations last year, so I still didn't reach the break-even point yet. If earnings don't change much, I'll probably reach it once I have around 2500 shares. I have 307 referrals, but they're not bringing much, I believe. I don't really remember how many I had one year ago. Apparently I did not note it down.

Since this past Feb 2016, I purchased a total of $250 (i.e. $25 monthly subscription x 10) and earned a commission of $3o6.65 and currently also have $32.94 cash and 3,254.04 shares.

And plan to pay for 1 year in the new year and will monitor the math.

And what I also do is promote DonkeyMails PTP. First in "1,000 PTC visitors 0.25 cent for all members" since it's faster and then in the "1,000 PTC visitors 0.25 cent for Silver and higher members".

As for writing notes, I sometime actually write it within the bookmarks on the browser. :)

Edited: Earned a commission of $306.65 in the last 10 months 

dansbanners wrote on 1^st Dec, 2016 at 11:58pm:

Since this past Feb 2016, I purchased a total of $250 (i.e. $25 monthly subscription x 10) and earned a commission of $331.65 and currently also have $32.94 cash and 3,254.04 shares. And plan to pay for 1 year in the new year and will monitor the math. And what I also do is promote DonkeyMails PTP. First in "1,000 PTC visitors 0.25 cent for all members" since it's faster and then in the "1,000 PTC visitors 0.25 cent for Silver and higher members". As for writing notes, I sometime actually write it within the bookmarks on the browser. :)

another thing you could do is document it here like I do  :)

I just crossed the$500 level at my account again. That will cover my next yearly upgrade. It isn't due until the end of September so anything I make now I can cash out or use for advertising.

interesting offer

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/shareaddeal.php

And it seems the earnings have stabilized somewhat

Interesting. I've made $213 so far, and I paid for my upgrade on December 7th last year. I might just break-even this year for my $250 upgrade.
That's really nice. It would be the first time ever. I'm now at 3780 shares.

Check your earnings. It seems he's tweaked it again to the upside

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Nov, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Check your earnings. It seems he's tweaked it again to the upside

No, I was wrong. I had just forgotten how much we were earning daily until I found a post I made to Dan regarding this

This is quite tempting. This is the original 'hobby that refused to die'  site and it looks like it is refusing to die.

He owes me more than $900 so that would almost buy me two years of fantastic monthly advertising ($499 maxi deal) assuming he can keep the traffic going

http://myfreeshares.com/pages/gold.php

It looks like they are getting into the bigger payouts now so his promise of paying out around this time seems to be coming true.

That's great because I have the money going into freebitco.in and they pay 4% interest

https://www.myfreeshares.com/pages/beenpaid.php?from=0

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Apr, 2020 at 6:26am:

That's great because I have the money going into freebitco.in and they pay 4% interest

Interesting. I was not aware of that.
That's the same rate they pay perfect money balance, but that one is not always the easiest to withdraw. On the other hand, since the balance is € or $, there's no price fluctuation risk.  :-/

ruicarlov wrote on 18^th Apr, 2020 at 10:53pm:

Interesting. I was not aware of that. That's the same rate they pay perfect money balance, but that one is not always the easiest to withdraw. On the other hand, since the balance is € or $, there's no price fluctuation risk.  :-/

I'd put a couple thousand in and then just have it compound daily but I just can't trust online sites. It's sad because that is a decent rate and it is BTC so there is always the upside.

Good, I finally got my $240 payout.

ruicarlov wrote on 23^rd Apr, 2020 at 1:51pm:

Good, I finally got my $240 payout.

Good for you! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing, I hope you'll get yours next.

dansbanners wrote on 23^rd Apr, 2020 at 3:43pm:

Good for you! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] moneymarketing, I hope you'll get yours next.

Probably not next but I think soon. Maybe in the next month. Sebas is a good guy. He keeps his word. This industry will suffer when he pulls back.

If we had a dozen more like him in the industry this would be the best work-at-home industry on the planet

Yes. I agree. Sebas is a good guy. :)

Quote:

Username      Requested      Paid      Amount      Fee      By dsbe      Jan 3, 2020      May 6, 2020      $898.52      $45.18      Bitcoin

:money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Even after paying me I still had $100 on account so I decided to throw some money his way.

Looking at the redeem for ads page, I see that he is now offering guaranteed banner clicks. That has always been a favorite of mine:


Quote:

Banner Impressions Guaranteed Clicks!: Your banner inserted into our banner rotation of the website for this we can accept 468x60, 125x125, 120x600, 160x600. This is a great way to catch peoples interest, just as much publicity, if not more than, advertising in the member e-Mails. The banners will be displayed almost every page on the site, randomly mixed in with other banners, where it is placed depends on the banner size. Banners need to be sizes 468x60 or 125x125 or 120x600 or 160x600. With our Banner impressions guaranteed clicks you not pay for each banner impression but you only pay when they click on your banner no matter howmuch impressions it receive. So this is a great way to get guaranteed Click results on your banners!     100 Guaranteed Clicks on your banner. - $5.99     500 Guaranteed Clicks on your banner. - $26.99     1,000 Guaranteed Clicks on your banner. - $49.99     10,000 Guaranteed Clicks on your banner. - $399.99

And he is not someone who will cheat you and click your banners to make himself some money. That is little league stuff so you know you will be getting higher quality, filtered clicks (people who actually are interested in what you are promoting) on your banners

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th May, 2020 at 9:07pm:

:money [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's great moneymarketing! You deserved it!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th May, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Even after paying me I still had $100 on account so I decided to throw some money his way. Looking at the redeem for ads page, I see that he is now offering guaranteed banner clicks. That has always been a favorite of mine:

You'll probably get a better bang for your buck with something like the following:


Quote:

100,000 Unique PTC visitors 0.1 cent + 100,000 Top Banners Normal $143 Now 79.99 - $79.99

Not to also mention it'll probably be a lot quicker. It'll probably be ages to receive 1,000 guaranteed banner clicks. IMHO.

dansbanners wrote on 6^th May, 2020 at 11:35pm:

You'll probably get a better bang for your buck with something like the following: Not to also mention it'll probably be a lot quicker. It'll probably be ages to receive 1,000 guaranteed banner clicks. IMHO.

Unless I promote something like R4A it probably won't be beneficial. I find the quality of the advertising to not be the best there. The thing I like about the banners is that they are in the prime RE area so you do get a lot of exposure from other sites and not just inhouse clickers. Being they are guaranteed clicks the quality is so much higher than an incentivized PTC or banner

moneymarketing wrote on 7^th May, 2020 at 12:14am:

Unless I promote something like R4A it probably won't be beneficial. I find the quality of the advertising to not be the best there. The thing I like about the banners is that they are in the prime RE area so you do get a lot of exposure from other sites and not just inhouse clickers. Being they are guaranteed clicks the quality is so much higher than an incentivized PTC or banner

What if you change your mind and no longer want to promote nor are still fond of the program in the banner and the order hasn't been completed yet? For instance, if you only received 100 of the 1,000 banner clicks thus far? Would you still be able to ask the owner to change the banner for you for the remainder of the order?

dansbanners wrote on 7^th May, 2020 at 1:21am:

What if you change your mind and no longer want to promote nor are still fond of the program in the banner and the order hasn't been completed yet? For instance, if you only received 100 of the 1,000 banner clicks thus far? Would you still be able to ask the owner to change the banner for you for the remainder of the order?

I'm sure Sebas would change the order if you ask him. It is not a big concern for me though. I'd just take it as a loss since the money was paid for out of MFS profits so it is close to free money/advertising anyway

dansbanners wrote on 7^th May, 2020 at 1:21am:

What if you change your mind and no longer want to promote nor are still fond of the program in the banner and the order hasn't been completed yet? For instance, if you only received 100 of the 1,000 banner clicks thus far? Would you still be able to ask the owner to change the banner for you for the remainder of the order?

The banner was started almost exactly 1.5 days ago and has 10 clicks so if that pace keeps up then they should be finished in 150 days. That's good enough

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th May, 2020 at 10:00pm:

The banner was started almost exactly 1.5 days ago and has 10 clicks so if that pace keeps up then they should be finished in 150 days. That's good enough

Ok. That's good to know.

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th May, 2020 at 10:16pm:

Even after paying me I still had $100 on account so I decided to throw some money his way. Looking at the redeem for ads page, I see that he is now offering guaranteed banner clicks. That has always been a favorite of mine: And he is not someone who will cheat you and click your banners to make himself some money. That is little league stuff so you know you will be getting higher quality, filtered clicks (people who actually are interested in what you are promoting) on your banners

So in about a week I've made $16 so it is still producing income for advertising there. I may decide to compound for upgrades or something

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th May, 2020 at 10:00pm:

The banner was started almost exactly 1.5 days ago and has 10 clicks so if that pace keeps up then they should be finished in 150 days. That's good enough

So after a month, I have two ads. One for 1000 clicks and one for 500. The 1000 has 105 and the 500 has 67. This is a good rate.

The problem is that they have produced no sign-ups, so, unfortunately, I can't recommend these types of ads  :dontknow :(

I'll have to find some other way to convert the earnings

moneymarketing wrote on 31^st May, 2020 at 12:42am:

So after a month, I have two ads. One for 1000 clicks and one for 500. The 1000 has 105 and the 500 has 67. This is a good rate. The problem is that they have produced no sign-ups, so, unfortunately, I can't recommend these types of ads  :dontknow :( I'll have to find some other way to convert the earnings

105 and 67 clicks after a month? To me, that's not a good rate. Too slow. I rather have more clicks within a shorter time span. But perhaps that's me. 

dansbanners wrote on 31^st May, 2020 at 1:44am:

105 and 67 clicks after a month? To me, that's not a good rate. Too slow. I rather have more clicks within a shorter time span. But perhaps that's me.

I think the site is dying. The rate should be higher but it is what it is. It could also be that there are just too many people with ads there so the supply can't keep up with the demand. That may be another reason he changed things. That said, it doesn't matter how many have clicked. The only thing that matters is if it creates active referrals (unless it is a PTP setup). That is what makes the poor showing. Clicks don't do anything for you until you get paid. If you don't get paid then you are paying the site for no benefit. It's like going to a restaurant, paying for the meal, and leaving without eating. We call that a charity, not a business

This is why you test things. This test is showing me the clicks don't work for two sites so it adds more credibility to the bad review. Banners have never been that great there for me but I thought a CPC setup would be more successful. I guess not.

I'll have to try other ads there since my earnings are still growing. I may also go for an upgrade. There are lots of options. Maybe I'll ask Sebas what his best ad deal is

It's not a big concern. It is free money at this point my having made a profit there

moneymarketing wrote on 31^st May, 2020 at 6:27pm:

Clicks don't do anything for you until you get paid.

Clicks could still do something for you if you're also able to earn referring page credits, impressions, PTP cash or points, etc. To keep the advertising going. I guess we can just agree to disagree here.

dansbanners wrote on 31^st May, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Clicks could still do something for you if you're also able to earn referring page credits, impressions, PTP cash or points, etc. To keep the advertising going. I guess we can just agree to disagree here.

We don't disagree here. I did say unless it is a ptp type setup

earnings. I think it was around $1.45 at the bottom so it looks like earnings are growing again

http://i.imgur.com/EUTX1od.png