venkat wrote on 29^th Jul, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Earn Up To $0.02 Per Click NO INVESTMENT NEEDED! Detailed statistics of your referral clicks Minimum Payout as low as $2.00 Earn 100% from your rented referrals Play the NerdGrid 25 times a day

I'm thinking of jumping on this. Are you making good money?

do they pay commissions for your advertisers?

They just hit 79,000 members. Maybe this could be the replacement for PTCBox

Well, I moved your post here for the subject to be discussed (all member types can participate in the discussion this way).

I've already joined the program under venkat but not to actually click and promote it,
so I didn't reply in the downline builder as well. Since it has a large enough member database
it seems great for a stable advertising source and added it to the PTCBox.Me Ads project.

So far it's been delivering ~350 visitors / day through it's grid. Seems kinda low activity for a site
with ~80.000 members if you ask me.. but anyways.. Oh, I just noticed I got 2 direct refs there.. lol..
I'll click today to see if they're active tomorrow.. :)

Btw MM if you intend to work on it feel free to join under venkat through the downline builder.

SolidSnake wrote on 1^st Sep, 2013 at 12:43am:

Well, I moved your post here for the subject to be discussed (all member types can participate in the discussion this way). I've already joined the program under venkat but not to actually click and promote it, so I didn't reply in the downline builder as well. Since it has a large enough member database it seems great for a stable advertising source and added it to the PTCBox.Me Ads project. So far it's been delivering ~350 visitors / day through it's grid. Seems kinda low activity for a site with ~80.000 members if you ask me.. but anyways.. Oh, I just noticed I got 2 direct refs there.. lol.. I'll click today to see if they're active tomorrow.. :) Btw MM if you intend to work on it feel free to join under venkat through the downline builder.

Do you know if they pay a commission on sales?

I see they have an excellent referral contest

I haven't checked that feature yet. May be they have it.

I raised the same question in their forum. Let's see.

I am clicking almost daily, but I'm not clicking all the ads. (There are around 80+ ads now, each worth $0.001) I just click the required 4 only daily.

May be, if I have good referral base, I can earn decent money.

Are you upgraded yet and do they offer 1 cent ads to upgrades or are all their ads .001?

I am not upgraded. And I don't think they offer $0.01 ads to anyone. (I can see only one ad in RED color (= upgraded members).

Really, after PtcBox, I don't have the confidence to upgrade in any PTC. I'm working mostly offline, that's another reason.

As a standard member too, I can see all the ads. I get a message 'This is for upgraded members only' when I click targeted ads. (That's another interesting thing.) At present I see only one ad worth $0.001 for upgraded members.

And I got the answer "Not now" from the moderator of Nerdbux forum for the question about referral commission from ad sales.

Thanks for your honesty. I think I'll hold off a bit for now

That is one area I have to give Neobux credit. I've made close to $50 in purchase commissions over the last year. That is almost enough to pay for my upgrade

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 3:35am:

That is one area I have to give Neobux credit. I've made close to $50 in purchase commissions over the last year. That is almost enough to pay for my upgrade

Wow, you must have some really good direct referrals. Considering that at Neobux it's only 1% of the purchases, that means your refs bought over $5000.  :o

ruicarlov wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Wow, you must have some really good direct referrals. Considering that at Neobux it's only 1% of the purchases, that means your refs bought over $5000.  :o

Yes, good point. A few of my commissions were for $8 and $10 so it is probably from one person. I must have found a program owner or something. I don't think they spent it on upgrades  :)

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 3:28am:

Thanks for your honesty. I think I'll hold off a bit for now

Want my honest opinion. I think it's probably a case of "it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck". Although I could be wrong. And it's still up to you.

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 3:38pm:

Yes, good point. A few of my commissions were for $8 and $10 so it is probably from one person. I must have found a program owner or something. I don't think they spent it on upgrades  :)

Once upon a time I used to get good commissions from my direct refs on neobux.. that was before I got kicked out (the first time.. lol) when they removed my refs..   [smiley=sad.gif].. I was offline for one or two months.. so I couldn't click ads.. used only public connections that were very risky.. The commissions used to be 10% back then.. :)

venkat wrote on 1^st Sep, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Really, after PtcBox, I don't have the confidence to upgrade in any PTC. I'm working mostly offline, that's another reason.

In fairness to Nerdbux, they'll probably be around. It's a question of can you make money with it?


venkat wrote on 1^st Sep, 2013 at 3:21pm:

And I got the answer "Not now" from the moderator of Nerdbux forum for the question about referral commission from ad sales.

The owners tend to do what's best for them.

SolidSnake wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 4:06pm:

Once upon a time I used to get good commissions from my direct refs on neobux.. that was before I got kicked out (the first time.. lol) when they removed my refs..   [smiley=sad.gif].. I was offline for one or two months.. so I couldn't click ads.. used only public connections that were very risky.. The commissions used to be 10% back then.. :)

Wow, that was nice. Through I only have 19 direct referrals, so that's why I don't get many comissions. 10% is a bit like Twickerz now, only it only works for some purchases (no discount packages).

Right now, I'm not going in heavy on any sites with less than 1 year. I'm on the lookout for Probux, and now maybe Nerdbux, but while they're young I'm off.
Cashclix and Constantbux were a little different since it felt closer to this forum.

SolidSnake wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 4:06pm:

Once upon a time I used to get good commissions from my direct refs on neobux.. that was before I got kicked out (the first time.. lol) when they removed my refs..   [smiley=sad.gif].. I was offline for one or two months.. so I couldn't click ads.. used only public connections that were very risky.. The commissions used to be 10% back then.. :)

Yes, that is something that really bothers me about the site. I have been there almost a year. I am reinvesting almost everything and now most of my rented referrals have between 40 and 120 days before they expire, so I've built quite a bit of time earning into my referrals. If I were to get sick or fall into a coma and not get on the site for a while, I would lose all of that. Is that fair? NO! I think they do that purposely, knowing that many people will stop for a time (not everyone is a lifeless troll like me  >:()

ruicarlov wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 4:25pm:

Wow, that was nice. Through I only have 19 direct referrals, so that's why I don't get many comissions. 10% is a bit like Twickerz now, only it only works for some purchases (no discount packages). Right now, I'm not going in heavy on any sites with less than 1 year. I'm on the lookout for Probux, and now maybe Nerdbux, but while they're young I'm off. Cashclix and Constantbux were a little different since it felt closer to this forum.

That's one of the red flags I use for a site is time in the industry. We all know that many blow up within the first year and many within the first few months. If it has been around for a year, and even better for two, then I'm willing to give it higher regard. The only exception I'll make is if it is an owner who has been in the industry for more than two years and they are opening a new site. This is because they know the business and they should have crunched the numbers regarding site profitability

An owner with a long term track record is, of course, what tricked us with PTCBox, but I truly think that was an anomaly. Plus, I'm still not sure it was the original MM owner that was running the site and, personally, my biggest mistake was over investing into the upgrades. Had I not done that, I would not have lost anything.

Keeping your investments into each individual site from getting too high is also a red flag for me but I thought the PTCBox was a huge opportunity and my eyes were blinded by the potential. So I reinforced a lesson for myself there.

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 5:16pm:

Yes, that is something that really bothers me about the site. I have been there almost a year. I am reinvesting almost everything and now most of my rented referrals have between 40 and 120 days before they expire, so I've built quite a bit of time earning into my referrals. If I were to get sick or fall into a coma and not get on the site for a while, I would lose all of that. Is that fair? NO! I think they do that purposely, knowing that many people will stop for a time (not everyone is a lifeless troll like me  >:()

And here are a few more funny rules..:


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2.3.      You can only view advertisements using one IP address within a 24 hours period. On the other hand, you can use multiple IP addresses to login. Any attempt to do otherwise may lead to the termination of your account.

What if I use a silly router that crashes and needs restarting every now and then? If it crashes and I don't have a static ip my day's earnings are lost.. but I'm also paying for my refs for this day.. so it's not just a "no-gain" but a loss too..


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2.9.      You can only use a maximum of 3 distinct computers in a 10 days period to view advertisements. Any attempt to use more than that in that defined period will cause an account suspension.

What will they do? Track our computer parts? What if I'm a techie and like to change parts all the time? :P


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8.2.      All suspended accounts will have all their balances reset, all referrals taken away and no refunds will be given.

"What do you mean why? Well.. just cause.. we CAN..."


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8.4.      After 30 days of inactivity, your account will be temporarily suspended and permanently suspended after 60 days of inactivity.

In other words.. you're not allowed to go to hospital or holidays for more than 30 days.. lol.. (and according to 2.3 or 2.9 you're not allowed to use other PCs than yours.. or public computers as well..)

Well, to get back to the subject.. sounds weird but I have a referral in nerdbux that clicked 76 ads yesterday!  :o
Really how does he do it?!? Man.. it's too bad that they only pay $0.001 / click.. and much less for referral clicks..

Regarding neobux, while there are those rules to prevent abuse, in most cases it's quite harmless or can be solved just by talking to them. I don't think they will actually ban anyone from a failing router with non-static IP. I have used 2 IPs often in the past. If the IPs belong to different countries, however....
And on the whole 3 computer thing, once I had the need to use a 4th one, and they reset the list after I asked them to.
And I believe only the permanently suspended accounts get everything reset. So you're allowed a 60-day coma.  ;)
But yes, there has been at least a case where someone was badly off in a hospital for a lot of time. Thankfully, his mother had acess to Neobux and contacted admin about it and he didn't loose his account. His earnings even helped paying the hospital bills.
This brings us to today's lesson. Let a relative know about your time-sensitive online business for emergencies.  :)

Going back on-topic, considering the number of ads they have on Nerdbux it's not surprising to have that many clicks by a referral. The last advertising campaigns for the site said "+80 ads daily".

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 5:32pm:

An owner with a long term track record is, of course, what tricked us with PTCBox, but I truly think that was an anomaly. Plus, I'm still not sure it was the original MM owner that was running the site and, personally, my biggest mistake was over investing into the upgrades. Had I not done that, I would not have lost anything.

I think your mistake was not the over investing but that you didn't cash out when you had the chance. Maybe you were taking things for granted. And from what I've gathered you weren't exactly promoting the program THAT much either thinking your downline was growing it for you and all. In the future, even if you think you're growing with the program, you should still occasionally cash out some to give yourself a bit of a bite of the carrot before continuing to pull the cart. IMHO.

I personally have no regrets investing in the program. Not only did I make a profit with the program but also that I was still growing in an upward curve just prior to the freeze and all.

I still think it didn't help matters when too many members had this "I just want my money back!" hostility or chip on their shoulder rather than trying to work things out with the admin to the point that the admin may have been just simply scared off or discouraged, etc.

dansbanners wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 6:29pm:

I think your mistake was not the over investing but that you didn't cash out when you had the chance. Maybe you were taking things for granted. And from what I've gathered you weren't exactly promoting the program THAT much either thinking your downline was growing it for you and all. In the future, even if you think you're growing with the program, you should still occasionally cash out some to give yourself a bit of a bite of the carrot before continuing to pull the cart. IMHO. I personally have no regrets investing in the program. Not only did I make a profit with the program but also that I was still growing in an upward curve just prior to the freeze and all. I still think it didn't help matters when too many members had this "I just want my money back!" hostility or chip on their shoulder rather than trying to work things out with the admin to the point that the admin may have been just simply scared off or discouraged, etc.

Yeah, I also think that was the main problem. It had a cashflow problem due to Paypal, and then caos ensued. It was a bit like a run to the bank. If it was a site of, let's say, the size of Constantbux, it would be easy to get a way around, like what happened with the subscription renewal.
Once you have many thousands of active members and thousands of dollars circulating everyday.... things get complicated fast.

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 3:28am:

Thanks for your honesty. I think I'll hold off a bit for now

Another thing is that we've joined many GOB's programs in the past. Have we done really well with any of them? What makes you think this one will be different? In another word don't be like "head banging against the wall" graphic in here.

ruicarlov wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Yeah, I also think that was the main problem. It had a cashflow problem due to Paypal, and then caos ensued. It was a bit like a run to the bank. If it was a site of, let's say, the size of Constantbux, it would be easy to get a way around, like what happened with the subscription renewal. Once you have many thousands of active members and thousands of dollars circulating everyday.... things get complicated fast.

Yes, that's why I don't think it was originally intended as a scam. But some are insisting at looking at it from a negative viewpoint. Or just take the easy way out, just write it off, saying or thinking it was a "scam" period. And they also seem to apply the same logic to other things as well, just thinking it was a scam each time it doesn't work out with a program. Or they'd think negative when they should think positive or vice versa, etc. :D   

What can I say? Humans seem to be wired that way.
It reminds of the medieval times where it was so easy to scream "Witch!" at someone and getting her burned.

Exactly, you both (rui+dan) get a +1 from me..

My opinion was always that when you have accumulated such a huge list of loyal members so willing to follow your plans,
it would require a very low IQ brain to decide to scam them.. The other way around would have been way more profitable
for everyone. Unfortunately the "witch" attack tactic, works flawlessly when it comes to PTCs.. If only people were more positive..


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The last advertising campaigns for the site said "+80 ads daily".

Wow.. that is definitely a great catch for newcomers..
and this is exactly what PTCBox Admin was talking about just before the end..

You can offer people 100 clicks with an earning ratio of $0.001 per click and people go NUTS about it..
Give them 10 cents with 1 click and they'll send you to hell.. while practically it's the exact same thing
considering we're talking about self-sponsored ads.. only it doesn't require such an effort and hours of their time...

dansbanners wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 6:29pm:

I think your mistake was not the over investing but that you didn't cash out when you had the chance. Maybe you were taking things for granted. And from what I've gathered you weren't exactly promoting the program THAT much either thinking your downline was growing it for you and all. In the future, even if you think you're growing with the program, you should still occasionally cash out some to give yourself a bit of a bite of the carrot before continuing to pull the cart. IMHO.

No, actually, I was getting good advertising from the program so I had reason to keep the money in there. Plus we were having those click days that were creating so much activity. I enjoyed being a part of that. Overall I didn't lose a lot of money from the big picture perspective and due to the advertising I cash in there I probably have made a profit from the referrals that came from the site

edit: WHOA! I was just checking on some of the advertising I had done for clixsense at PTCBox. One of my ad spots(remember that text link ad board?) has made me over $600!  :o So yes, I guess I did make a net profit from PTCBox  [smiley=z05-yes.gif]

Another thing was that I was holding back because you were my downline and I didn't want to be referring over top of you. We had a bit of a gentleman's agreement that if you were under me I wouldn't make a big effort in promoting. I was starting to do more advertising around the time of the crash and was getting pretty good sign up rates too. At that point you had a pretty big team and had some momentum so I knew I wouldn't be hurting your market share

Personally I do think Nerdbux is there for the long run and it's not bad to promote and keep an eye on it.

However, I am not too sure on how to promote it, it seems to be a fact that renting referrals is still not really a beneficial move right now unless you are very lucky. On the other hand, with so many ads, a newbie can rent his first ref after 3 days of clicking and then see for himself if it works out or not.

I bought a nerdgrid ad the 15th of July and had 7502 views after one month. At that time there were very few PTC ads so maybe people had more time to click on the grid, I know that now there are so many ads that I don't even click on those daily so I hardly visit the grid.

I think upgrading is interesting once you have a good amount of Direct Referrals, before having built a good downline I don't really see why it would be beneficial to upgrade.

I stopped posting at the forum but the French part after an entire thread was removed without a valid reason, I had posted in it and seeing a post I had made trying to help people and still valid removed without any notice or explanation is something I find rude.
I had asked about commissions to sell ads back then too as there were so few ads to click on and it might boost the sale of ads but I also had the reply that it would cost too much to nerdbux so that wasn't an option right now.

I don't like the 4 clicks a day rule either, it's not because many bux sites apply it that I think it's right, especially since if you are abroad you can't access your account. Belgium is a very small country and I go away often for various reasons, all that time my directs click and I earn nothing simply because am not home and can't click ....

I know Timtech invested in the site and they will stay for a long time but for now I have like a wait and see attitude, once the bunch of ads sold at promotional prize will expire we will see better what the routinal future will be.

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:25pm:

I bought a nerdgrid ad the 15th of July and had 7502 views after one month. At that time there were very few PTC ads so maybe people had more time to click on the grid, I know that now there are so many ads that I don't even click on those daily so I hardly visit the grid.

As for that I could help..

My NerdGrid ad is still active since 13th of August (almost 3 weeks) and has received 6798 clicks so far.
I guess it will be ~10.000 by September 13th.. so it's pretty fair for $5 / month IMO.

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 10:25pm:

edit: WHOA! I was just checking on some of the advertising I had done for clixsense at PTCBox. One of my ad spots(remember that text link ad board?) has made me over $600!  :o So yes, I guess I did make a net profit from PTCBox  [smiley=z05-yes.gif]

To tell the truth, those are my stats from promoting it in PTCBox:

6,853 signups + $2,899.61!!! :o

SolidSnake wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:40pm:

As for that I could help.. My NerdGrid ad is still active since 13th of August (almost 3 weeks) and has received 6798 clicks so far. I guess it will be ~10.000 by September 13th.. so it's pretty fair for $5 / month IMO.

Oh so more people click now, that is good :)

It gives you good results in terms of sign ups ?

dansbanners wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:43pm:

To tell the truth, those are my stats from promoting it in PTCBox: 6,853 signups + $2,899.61!!! :o

You have 6853 sign ups from prompoting clixsense at ptcbox ?????

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:52pm:

Oh so more people click now, that is good :) It gives you good results in terms of sign ups ?

Well, I can't tell for sure... as I don't use traffic for signups.. I advertise my ads page,
and I do get a few sales every now and then but it's the advertisers that get the signups..

Btw has your ad received generated you any sign ups?
In my records I see that your banner has received 34 clicks so far.

A few days ago the top ads expired so I have enough space to use some of the top spots myself for a few days now.
This way I'll get a picture of how it goes.

SolidSnake wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 12:08am:

Well, I can't tell for sure... as I don't use traffic for signups.. I advertise my ads page, and I do get a few sales every now and then but it's the advertisers that get the signups.. Btw has your ad received generated you any sign ups? In my records I see that your banner has received 34 clicks so far. A few days ago the top ads expired so I have enough space to use some of the top spots myself for a few days now. This way I'll get a picture of how it goes.

I don't know if I had signups, I had a few refs but I don't track my ads so am not sure it's from your page ;)

dansbanners wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:43pm:

To tell the truth, those are my stats from promoting it in PTCBox: 6,853 signups + $2,899.61!!! :o

Yes, that's very good. I didn't do a total count for all my stats as I was just concerned with whether or not I turned a profit. Plus, I only had that adboard spot for a few months before they started making it really expensive and making it nearly impossible to purchase

any way you look at it, PTCBox was very good for advertising

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:52pm:

You have 6853 sign ups from prompoting clixsense at ptcbox ?????

My thoughts exactly :o
I must have really underestimated that Adboard. I thought text ads like those never led anywhere very positive.....

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 12:13pm:

My thoughts exactly :o I must have really underestimated that Adboard. I thought text ads like those never led anywhere very positive.....

Hadn't used that as well.. as it was too expensive for me too.. but I've seen great results from text ads.. etc in GetRef login screen.
Too bad there is a kinda hard to win bidding process there now..

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:52pm:

You have 6853 sign ups from prompoting clixsense at ptcbox ?????

Yep. That's why I wanted to keep the program going. :)

moneymarketing wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 8:05am:

any way you look at it, PTCBox was very good for advertising

Yes. That's why, as you may recall, some of the members were trying to get the owner to still keep the advertising aspect of the program open while trying to sort out the rest of the program.

Besides, don't forget the admin was also getting some hostility even before the freeze. Remember those DDOS attacks, etc.

sophieca wrote on 2^nd Sep, 2013 at 11:25pm:

I know Timtech invested in the site and they will stay for a long time but for now I have like a wait and see attitude, once the bunch of ads sold at promotional prize will expire we will see better what the routinal future will be.

I think Timtech is too well known in the internet marketing community to pull a disappearing act. And I'm not even promoting the program nor am I a member.

Probux and Nerdbux seem to be the two new popular sites. However it seems the Admins reputation is not the best. There's that Timtech guy at Nerdbux and I've heard that the one in charge on Probux was the admin of Onbux. Do you know anything about that?

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 2:09pm:

Probux and Nerdbux seem to be the two new popular sites. However it seems the Admins reputation is not the best. There's that Timtech guy at Nerdbux and I've heard that the one in charge on Probux was the admin of Onbux. Do you know anything about that?

I've researched on ProBux a couple of times but all I get is negative stuff.. Delayed payments, bad support, abnormal rented referral behaviour (bot-like) and there are a lot of people complaining about getting their account suspended just before ROI..

Some say that the admins are the same but that can be just like the "witch" effect..
Here's what their admin said regarding this matter : link

Either way even if he's telling the truth there's still something I don't like that site..
I was thinking of adding its grid to my incoming traffic sources but I hesitated..

For the time being I'm just a standard member with a couple of rented referrals (never invested anything). Rental referral behaviour seems similar to Neobux (which despite all the rumours going around, it wouldn't survive 5 years on bots).
If things keep stable for a year, I might consider investing.

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 2:09pm:

Probux and Nerdbux seem to be the two new popular sites. However it seems the Admins reputation is not the best. There's that Timtech guy at Nerdbux and I've heard that the one in charge on Probux was the admin of Onbux. Do you know anything about that?

You mean Timtech's rep is not the best ? I have never seen that before, they have their way but they pay and give what they promise.

I have been paid 4$ instantly today by Nerdbux, I have 21 direct refs and from those more or less 8-9 are active. I trust I'll have more payouts from the site !  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Timtech has a good reputation.. Probux on the other side has a bad one.. (and lots of enemies it seems..)

sophieca wrote on 4^th Sep, 2013 at 3:06pm:

You mean Timtech's rep is not the best ? I have never seen that before, they have their way but they pay and give what they promise.

Sorry, I realized I misread dansbanners' post above. I read that he was known for pulling disappearing acts.  :P

ruicarlov wrote on 4^th Sep, 2013 at 6:47pm:

Sorry, I realized I misread dansbanners' post above. I read that he was known for pulling disappearing acts.  :P

Yes, I was telling another member in the forum that I think he doesn't have to worry about TimTech pulling a disappearing act. Thus the key question is "can I make money with the program?". That's for others or the members to decide.

Weird thing.. even though I remember clicking a couple of ads yesterday, I entered the system today and it says :


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You didn't view any advertisements yesterday. You will not earn income on your referrals today.

That sucks... just yesterday I got 8 new refs and would like to see how they go.. :(
Could it be an issue or was I in the dreamworld when I did the clicks? [smiley=sad.gif]

I never had that thing. Weird...

But, I can see in my panel that your clicks went up. In the 'Statistics' page it says 'Your referral clicks: 0'.

venkat wrote on 18^th Sep, 2013 at 12:13pm:

I never had that thing. Weird... But, I can see in my panel that your clicks went up. In the 'Statistics' page it says 'Your referral clicks: 0'.

Oh, I forgot I was your ref.. lol
Ok, so in your refs clicks you got zero for yesterday?
So maybe I missed the clicking.. :(

Anyway.. I guess I was too obsessed with watching any new refs signing up that I forgot I didn't click..

Maybe check your own stats ...... congrats with your new referrals ! :)

sophieca wrote on 18^th Sep, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Maybe check your own stats ...... congrats with your new referrals ! :)

Oh, I just realized it shows my own clicks too in the statistics page..
I thought it was only about referral activity cause the link is located right next to the referral clicks..

Thanks!

Btw.. it says 1 click yesterday.. so I guess we have to click all 4 ads to receive *any* earnings from our refs?

Yes, we have to click at least 4. (This message is displayed on top of the ads when we visit the ads page first time for the day [or until we click 4] :) )

Indeed, you have to click 4 ads a day to earn from refs, it annoys me cause you can't click when you're abroad and each time I travel, my ref earnings are lost (keeping in mind it takes 2 hours by car to cross my country, so going abroad is not really exceptionnal ;) )

It's just that I thought the rule was like in old neobux (not sure what's it like now..) that when you click 1 2 or 3 clicks you'd receive 2 x personal clicks x referral number or something like that..

Oh ok, am not in Neobux, I did join back then and let my account go inactive, I rreally didn't like it.

I hope we'll have 4 ads to click at Nerdbux tomorrow ..... 8 ads show for me right now

They do seem to be in a bit of a panic for advertisers. First they were offering a 10% bonus for large dollar deposits and tonight they are giving double credits on purchases.

If someone had used the 10% bonus and now these double credits they would have received a nice advertising bonus with the combined amount of clicks

Wow, are they really that short on advertisers? I thought Nerdbux was that site with +80 ads per day.  :o

This is why a program needs to be different in order for it to stand out. There are just too many bux like programs out there that are too similar to one another and all. IMHO.

sophieca wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 1:01am:

Indeed, you have to click 4 ads a day to earn from refs, it annoys me cause you can't click when you're abroad and each time I travel, my ref earnings are lost (keeping in mind it takes 2 hours by car to cross my country, so going abroad is not really exceptionnal ;) )

FYI, there are usually computers in hotels these days. Just saying.

But, it's against their terms to click from another country than that mentioned in our profile. Isn't it? Just asking.

dansbanners wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 2:05pm:

FYI, there are usually computers in hotels these days. Just saying.

That's right and to avoid using a public IP (or clicking from another country..) you can always leave a PC turned on at home when travelling
and use team viewer from a mobile device (laptop, netbook, tablet or even smartphone) to connect to your
home pc and view ads from there. You are not violating any rules this way and you're not doing anything
unethical as well, since you view the advertisements like you normally should.

As for the ads issue, it seems they added a rain of ads today.. you might wanna check it out.. :)

Oh..yes. That's a good idea. I totally forgot the TeamViewer thing.

No idea about what TeamViewer is, but I have clicked from other countries. In Neobux it's acceptable, as long as people don't make an habit of clicking from two countries in the same day.
The main limitation I find is when tablets can't be used. Or when there's just no internet. I was a week in Spain without any acess whatsoever.

ruicarlov wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 5:05pm:

No idea about what TeamViewer is, but I have clicked from other countries. In Neobux it's acceptable, as long as people don't make an habit of clicking from two countries in the same day. The main limitation I find is when tablets can't be used. Or when there's just no internet. I was a week in Spain without any acess whatsoever.

Since remote access to your own desktop solves the IP problem and you still view advertisements it's not against the rules
nor cheating.. so it is an option in my opinion.. you just need to leave your computer on like a server..

Btw, it's the reason I've developed my application, that checks internet connectivity and automatically repairs it in case it fails.. :)

dansbanners wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 2:05pm:

FYI, there are usually computers in hotels these days. Just saying.

The problem is not computer or connection, with nerdbux when you're abroad you can't even login, it blocks you, Tim told me it was for security reasns .....

As I generally travel with my own computer, teamviewer wouldn't be an option am afraid but it's a good idea nevertheless :)

sophieca wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 7:37pm:

The problem is not computer or connection, with nerdbux when you're abroad you can't even login, it blocks you, Tim told me it was for security reasns ..... As I generally travel with my own computer, teamviewer wouldn't be an option am afraid but it's a good idea nevertheless :)

Well, then it's one of these times a relative that owns a computer but knows very little about how to use it,
would be very helpful..  ::)  :P

SolidSnake wrote on 19^th Sep, 2013 at 2:43pm:

That's right and to avoid using a public IP (or clicking from another country..) you can always leave a PC turned on at home when travelling and use team viewer from a mobile device (laptop, netbook, tablet or even smartphone) to connect to your home pc and view ads from there. You are not violating any rules this way and you're not doing anything unethical as well, since you view the advertisements like you normally should.

Personally I wouldn't do it for security reasons. Not to also mention it's a waste of electricity.

It is a waste of electricity but only for a few days.. so it should better be used with a low power consumption, power supply.
To me it's not a problem since I have my pc always on.. regardless of if I'm home or not.

As for the security reasons.. well it's all up to how well firewalled is the computer when it comes to software and
how safe it's cooling system is when it comes to hardware. I've invested a lot especially in that second part.. since
my desktop is never going off for the last 4-5 years..

So, lifetime memberships...

I wonder where have I seen that before?....  :-/

ruicarlov wrote on 21^st Sep, 2013 at 1:15pm:

So, lifetime memberships... I wonder where have I seen that before?....  :-/

Well.. past is past man..   :)

We need to look ahead and... oh  :censored.. so they also removed the annual upgrade making lifetime the only option?!?  >:(
And I was almost considering upgrading... Now I'll only do so if I collect a LOT of referrals..

Yes, I did finally join as an advertiser. They have been sending out a lot of 'emergency' (24 hour deadline) sales which seems a little desperate

so now, in the last week, they have offered:

10% cash bonus for deposits
double advertising credits
$57 for 14 days fixed ads (normally $25 per day)
and now lifetime memberships

I took them up on the 14 days fixed ad deal myself and received 16000 clicks on the first day. I'm just wondering if the site will be around by the end of the 14 days?  ;D

Posted on the nerdbux forum



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I be shocked if offer it again if do be few years and cost alot more. Hopefully you get special forum badge for us lifers. As Jon says takes money to make money. In past 3 months my net worth gone down 3 grand. Alot of that going to TimTech and 3 or 4 others. But I be earning off what spending for years to come. I should break even before year ends on what been promoting. But year from now I be happy. No point a farmer asking God for rain if not going to prepare to receive it.

Oh boy, where have we heard these 'hopes' before  :-X

While I have nothing against lifetime memberships (I had on on CashNHits before upgrading to a more useful one), as moneymarketing said, this seems a bit of desperation.

moneymarketing wrote on 21^st Sep, 2013 at 3:06pm:

Posted on the nerdbux forum Oh boy, where have we heard these 'hopes' before  :-X

I read that too.. didn't want to post in their forum not to spoil the party though...
And yes.. this seems like a desperate move..

Timtech always sells lifetime upgrades at their sites so I don't feel they act wierd, if I was able to have more referrals, I would definitely consider but with my 26 refs from which 5 are more or less active, it's not worth it.

Well, time will tell...

I'm currently running a second campaign on Top10PTC.. curious to see how it will go..
Last time it got me 8 active refs in one day.. hopefully it will go well too..

Guess what..? I'm wondering what this guy (jjohnson777) is trying to tell.. :


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Your problem with PayPal has been posted in other forums. From forum post your payment triggered a security reviews on that payment. So you should either make smaller deposits to buy upgrade or use Payza. Nothing NerdBux can do need to call PayPal.  Your best bet is to open Payza account.

I checked their PayPal account and it seems to be active.. Let's see...

How much are their lifetime upgrades? Just wondering. Also is it also a PTP?

dansbanners wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2013 at 1:41pm:

How much are their lifetime upgrades? Just wondering. Also is it also a PTP?

Looks like the offer's been taken down now.. it was $97 for lifetime. Now it's back to $50 / year.

dansbanners wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2013 at 1:41pm:

How much are their lifetime upgrades? Just wondering. Also is it also a PTP?

It's just a bux site (so no PTP but they do have lucrative referral contests) and it was a 24 hour offer. Currently they are now offering 10 cent rented referrals so the craziness continues.

These kind of sales lead people to make irrational spending decisions. I did the same thing with PTCBox and when they offered the licenses I dipped into my credit card. We all know where that went.

So what if they are trying to get limited by PP? Then they could crash the site and say it wasn't their fault. They could blame big bad PP and their reputation stays intact while they walk off with any money they took out of PP to that point.

Does this sound like a pattern we've seen before? We need to keep a watch on this site over the next little while because they could be pushing for automatic limitation.

I'm not saying this is what they are doing but it is my job as an 'investor' to look for ways that things can go wrong in order to protect my investments (90% of investing is capital preservation....in other words, DEFENCE. You can't invest it or reinvest it if you lose it). When it comes to money, assume you are being scammed

moneymarketing wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2013 at 3:39pm:

It's just a bux site (so no PTP but they do have lucrative referral contests) and it was a 24 hour offer. Currently they are now offering 10 cent rented referrals so the craziness continues. These kind of sales lead people to make irrational spending decisions. I did the same thing with PTCBox and when they offered the licenses I dipped into my credit card. We all know where that went. So what if they are trying to get limited by PP? Then they could crash the site and say it wasn't their fault. They could blame big bad PP and their reputation stays intact while they walk off with any money they took out of PP to that point. Does this sound like a pattern we've seen before? We need to keep a watch on this site over the next little while because they could be pushing for automatic limitation. I'm not saying this is what they are doing but it is my job as an 'investor' to look for ways that things can go wrong in order to protect my investments (90% of investing is capital preservation....in other words, DEFENCE. You can't invest it or reinvest it if you lose it). When it comes to money, assume you are being scammed

Exactly what I was thinking.. after PTCBox all admins should now know that such big promos attract PayPal's attention.
Pushing a lot of people to purchase $100s from the site in just a day is like asking for it..

Ok, maybe PTCBox had the alibi that it was the prototype in such big promos.. but now there's no excuse anymore..
We should learn from past mistakes.. If a limitation happens now the locked amount would be massive..

(Btw, just for the record I checked out the original PTCBox's PayPal account again today and it's still limited.
So it never got unlocked again.. in 9 days it will be a year since the limitation so we'll know if it ever gets unlocked..)

I also noticed the 10 cents refs promo and checked it but it seems that there are no available referrals for rental anyway..
As for the upgrade price why does NerdBux only have a yearly upgrade available? Shouldn't there be smaller packs available too?

As I previously said, after Ptcbox I don't have the confidence to upgrade anywhere.

Meanwhile, I just wanted to check their 'Rented Referrals' feature and I was surprised. I rented 2 referrals for $0.40 and already I made $0.34 from those two in just 4 days.

I see a link 'Autopay' in the RR page. What does it mean? If I enable it, can I keep the existing 2 rented referrals for another month ( :D ) ? Or will I be assigned 2 new referrals?

I bet Autopay is the same as in Neobux and Twickerz. If a referral clicks that day, he will automatically be renewed for another day, with a 15% discount on the monthly rental price. It kinds becomes useless if the rental renewal period is 240 days (bigger discount)

The ads from the last promotion expire more or less today I think, I wonder what they'll come up with next :)

I read a bit at their forum today, personally I think they shouldn't offer a Renting Referral possibility, it makes people who are not able to find direct referrals frustrated and angry and when they complain they are told off which makes them even more frustrated ... it's really not good for the image of the site imho

sophieca wrote on 4^th Oct, 2013 at 6:50pm:

The ads from the last promotion expire more or less today I think, I wonder what they'll come up with next :) I read a bit at their forum today, personally I think they shouldn't offer a Renting Referral possibility, it makes people who are not able to find direct referrals frustrated and angry and when they complain they are told off which makes them even more frustrated ... it's really not good for the image of the site imho

Yes, and it went very well for me. 237K hits, 120 referrals at clixsense. It reminds me of the good old days using PTCBox.

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Oct, 2013 at 8:15pm:

Yes, and it went very well for me. 237K hits, 120 referrals at clixsense. It reminds me of the good old days using PTCBox.

Nice results! Which pack did you get?

Yes, great result, did you promote a splash page or the referral link, I never know what is best lol

SolidSnake wrote on 4^th Oct, 2013 at 8:38pm:

Nice results! Which pack did you get?

It was that special deal they offered. 14 days fixed ads for $57. If that comes up again, I'd jump on it

sophieca wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 12:10am:

Yes, great result, did you promote a splash page or the referral link, I never know what is best lol

I pointed them to the view ads page

moneymarketing wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 1:59pm:

It was that special deal they offered. 14 days fixed ads for $57. If that comes up again, I'd jump on it

Well, that's a nice price.. I'll keep my eyes open for that.

[edit]Btw.. they did another good offer as explained in this post

If you can't read it let me know, I'll quote it here.
It seems that they offered 3 special spots on their homepage for $197/month and people jumped on it so it's closed now.[/edit]

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 6:45pm:

Well, that's a nice price.. I'll keep my eyes open for that.

Yes, I'm not sure it will come back because they have raised their daily fixed ad prices from $25 to $30 since then. If that or the $99 for a month price(I wish I was around to jump on that) comes back I'd definitely get it. I was getting 16K hits per day over the last two weeks

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 6:45pm:

Well, that's a nice price.. I'll keep my eyes open for that. [edit]Btw.. they did another good offer as explained in this post If you can't read it let me know, I'll quote it here. It seems that they offered 3 special spots on their homepage for $197/month and people jumped on it so it's closed now.[/edit]

Wow! 100 skype responses in under a minute. They underpriced that one and yet they are charging $690 for a 30 day fixed ad  :o

moneymarketing wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 7:32pm:

Wow! 100 skype responses in under a minute. They underpriced that one and yet they are charging $690 for a 30 day fixed ad  :o

Yes, I'm now reading that they kind of lost $250 per fixed ad sale and they probably won't make the same promo again.. :(

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 7:38pm:

Yes, I'm now reading that they kind of lost $250 per fixed ad sale and they probably won't make the same promo again.. :(

So we were right that they were having a bit of a fire sale. Our instincts paid off again.

On the positive side, this will mean that there are less advertisements to compete with. The thing is, that $690, based on my stats, will only probably bring in about 250 referrals @ CS. There is no way that the ad will pay for itself at that rate so I don't know who is going to be advertising there

moneymarketing wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 2:02pm:

I pointed them to the view ads page

Oh great :)

Am silly at those things, you could explain to me how you direct people to that page with your refID in it ?

sophieca wrote on 6^th Oct, 2013 at 12:53am:

Oh great :) Am silly at those things, you could explain to me how you direct people to that page with your refID in it ?

If you click on the view ads page when you are logged in, you should see a little chain link beside your username. click on that and the user id link plus a box for tracking should pop up. There are actually a few pages with the chain link on it so you can experiment with different marketing styles and ads. For example, not everyone will be interested in PTC. You could point them to the contest page via the clixgrid, the offer page for bigger earnings that way or the affiliate page to show them what they could earn referring others

I tried a couple of those some time ago but I can't say I had much luck back then. There are so many clixsense ads pointing towards those pages already that most people have seen it.

ruicarlov wrote on 6^th Oct, 2013 at 1:07pm:

I tried a couple of those some time ago but I can't say I had much luck back then. There are so many clixsense ads pointing towards those pages already that most people have seen it.

Yes, you definitely have to target the 'new' people coming into the industry. If you can't make a profit from advertising to them then it is somewhat pointless

Thanks for your help moneymarketing, I never had noticed that little chain thingy :)

I must say that the way some admins/mods talk to the members at nerdbux made me go away from their forum, I hope that with time Nerdbux will become a great site because for now I am really very disappointed.

sophieca wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 12:27am:

I must say that the way some admins/mods talk to the members at nerdbux made me go away from their forum, I hope that with time Nerdbux will become a great site because for now I am really very disappointed.

Somehow that action motivated me to get a bit involved to their forum lately...
I guess I needed some tension (and why not earning some easy extra publicity as well).

sophieca wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 12:27am:

Thanks for your help moneymarketing, I never had noticed that little chain thingy :) I must say that the way some admins/mods talk to the members at nerdbux made me go away from their forum, I hope that with time Nerdbux will become a great site because for now I am really very disappointed.

I guess they are trying to model themselves after Neobux  ;D

LOL, one of the main reasons am not a fan of Neobux, did quit it a long time ago.

Yes, I saw you went to the forum Solid, you know, if one can't prove the rented referrals are bots, you can't prove they are not either, it goes both ways lol . So many RRs clicking 1 or 2 ads a day when Direct referrals don't have that pattern surely causes doubts among members. For now anyway, it would be crazy to rent referrals as there aren't enough ads to click on to even make it possible to be in profit.

I keep my wait and see attitude ;)

sophieca wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 1:17am:

Yes, I saw you went to the forum Solid, you know, if one can't prove the rented referrals are bots, you can't prove they are not either, it goes both ways lol . So many RRs clicking 1 or 2 ads a day when Direct referrals don't have that pattern surely causes doubts among members. For now anyway, it would be crazy to rent referrals as there aren't enough ads to click on to even make it possible to be in profit. I keep my wait and see attitude ;)

Of course, I never said they aren't bots.. to be honest even I believe that they might be bots,
but I won't ever make any such accusations without a proof, and I hate to see people do so.

In here we call that "the witch effect"..
It's like in the medieval times.. accuse someone of being a witch usually caused them to get fired up..

As for the attitude.. I'm nothing extreme, I try to stay calm, kind and polite, playing by the forum rules..
So, it's usually a couple of members that normally get to hate me while the rest (plus mods/admins) to like me..lol

Btw, I experienced a huge drop in earnings with the low number of ads available.. so I think I'll just cashout now (~$7).
I was to wait and reach $10 but it seems that it will take a long time now as refs got a bit disappointed since yesterday.. :(

Small update..
Having a small talk with the admin.. here.

Am sneaking in from the office lol

I saw admin doesn't really worry about advertisers .... I think it's a bit troubling to see the admin offering referrals for rent knowing very well that the members can only lose out from it with the amount of ads currently available and not caring about it.

I read your proposals, but if everyone buys micro ads like it seems to be the case now and might be even more so with adpackages, referring people to nerdbux or buying an upgrade is a waste of money as we don't earn when our refs click on those.

sophieca wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Am sneaking in from the office lol I saw admin doesn't really worry about advertisers .... I think it's a bit troubling to see the admin offering referrals for rent knowing very well that the members can only lose out from it with the amount of ads currently available and not caring about it. I read your proposals, but if everyone buys micro ads like it seems to be the case now and might be even more so with adpackages, referring people to nerdbux or buying an upgrade is a waste of money as we don't earn when our refs click on those.

I stated PTC credits as that's the way they sell ads.
Credits can be used for whichever type of ad the advertiser wants, either micro, standard, mini etc,
so I didn't know how else to put it. The point is to generate some sales and increase the number of available ads.

Even if I earn less on some of those my referrals click, I'd rather keep them happy so that I actually earn from
some of their clicks, than get disappointed and leave the site..

I think it was kind of annoying to hear him say that the activity is the least of his worries..
Considering the complaints of so many people saying that their referrals rented or not, are
not active or click 1-2 ads he should at least avoid to talk about that.

Expanding his lack of worry it could be an indication that his actual members are active and
raise up the suspicion for bot activity that he controls.. I decided not to express this thought
there as it would ruin the constructive spirit of my post.. but it definitely was unpleasant.

Also the thing about advertisers.. well if he doesn't care about members' low activity nor
lack of advertisers, then why does he actually care for? It was weird to read.

I didn't feel like pushing him, though he kinda asks for it. So I just shared my thoughts and
stopped there.. Not sure how the rest of the members will react reading his post though.

Let's see..

Since I'm not in the site, let's see if I can get understand the problem. You only earn from referrals from a limited number of ads. I'm assuming you don't earn anything from micro ads, only the other classes.
None of those ads are guaranteed, which means it may be full of microads, but nearly empty of those ads the really matter for uplines. For those that rent referrals, they become unable to earn enough from referrals, since the are few ads that give them comissions.

Is this what's happening?

If that's the case, then I think it could be serious. If a site has the option to rent referrals, then it sould be able to guarantee that there are ads available to click. Just like Neobux, Twickerz and Probux do. Of course they can't guarantee referral activity, but they should at least make sure those referrals have some ads to click that count towards their uplines. Otherwise it's luring people in a system that it's nearly impossible to profit from.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Since I'm not in the site,...

Looks like you're not missing much right now.. :)

Yes that is what's happening.
As for the rented referrals before now it was that 99% of them was inactive.
Now even if they are 100% active they won't make the rental money back within a month due to the lack of ads.

It's not actually lack of ads but low pay per click that makes it practically impossible to pay back the cost.
Standard members earn 50% so since all ads are worth $0.001 refs clicks pay $0.0005 per click and there
are ~12 available ads daily now. So.. 30 x 12 x $0.0005 = $0.18 while the rental cost is $0.20 per referral.

Maybe upgrading will work. From what I see on their ads page (not logged in) they have 8 extended ads (worth $0.02 each), 1 macro ad ($0.0.01), 10 standard ads ($0.005) and 6 fiexed ads ($0.001).

I know that for example at Twickerz it's not worth renting when you're a free member. Only at higher memberships does it become profitable since we get bigger commissions from referrals. Maybe the system is made so that only upgraded members can profit from RR. Not all bux sites are like Neobux, after all.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 9:46pm:

Maybe upgrading will work. From what I see on their ads page (not logged in) they have 8 extended ads (worth $0.02 each), 1 macro ad ($0.0.01), 10 standard ads ($0.005) and 6 fiexed ads ($0.001).

Upgrading would work if it gave made those ads available to our referrals.
Now wouldn't that be an interesting feature for PTC programs?
Upline upgrade to provide more ads to click for the downline.. lol

SolidSnake wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Upgrading would work if it gave made those ads available to our referrals. Now wouldn't that be an interesting feature for PTC programs? Upline upgrade to provide more ads to click for the downline.. lol

and they don't pay commissions on purchases either do they? That is another thing that Neobux does for their customers. I was talking earlier this year about how that pretty much covered the cost of my upgrade

They are just a little too tight with the money over there at nerdbux and that is starting to show up in advertiser participation

moneymarketing wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 11:59pm:

and they don't pay commissions on purchases either do they? That is another thing that Neobux does for their customers. I was talking earlier this year about how that pretty much covered the cost of my upgrade They are just a little too tight with the money over there at nerdbux and that is starting to show up in advertiser participation

But according to their admin answers they don't feel they are that tight..
If there's something we've learned after PTCBox is that tons of self-confidence won't help with the site's stability..
Let's hope they realize that before it's too late.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Oct, 2013 at 9:46pm:

Maybe upgrading will work. From what I see on their ads page (not logged in) they have 8 extended ads (worth $0.02 each), 1 macro ad ($0.0.01), 10 standard ads ($0.005) and 6 fiexed ads ($0.001). I know that for example at Twickerz it's not worth renting when you're a free member. Only at higher memberships does it become profitable since we get bigger commissions from referrals. Maybe the system is made so that only upgraded members can profit from RR. Not all bux sites are like Neobux, after all.

Not everyone sees the same ads, I never see extended ads (think I saw one or two in since I joined), have now 1 macro worth 0.001$ and 11 fixed ads worth 0.001$. I don't often see macro ads either.

For my upline to break even if I were a rented referral, I should make 1,333 cent each day.

At nerdbux, the only way to earn from your referrals is from those ads, you don't earn commissions if they upgrade, buy ads, do offers or mini-jobs, win the grid etc ...

This evening I saw that they offer a lifetime upgrade for 1 Bitcoin, I must say that for now it's absolutely not worth it for me, my referrals should click 127,000 fixed ads worth 0.001$ to make me break even  :D

I think I'll keep my wait and see attitude for another while  8-)

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Oct, 2013 at 12:07am:

But according to their admin answers they don't feel they are that tight.. If there's something we've learned after PTCBox is that tons of self-confidence won't help with the site's stability.. Let's hope they realize that before it's too late.

I hope too they do realise and what I like is that members are not afraid to tell when things go wrong, ok, it can look negative but if no one says where the problems are, we can't expect improvement, can we ?

I read what Justin Ledvina posted last 24 hours, especially about the renting referrals system and I liked what I read so I keep my trust in the site :)

What, you mean about removing the whole rented referral system?

No, another post he made but now I can't find it back sigh, if I find it I'll post the link

Another 24h promo is up.. 7 day fixed ad for $77, just in case anyone is interested.

SolidSnake wrote on 13^th Oct, 2013 at 4:10am:

Another 24h promo is up.. 7 day fixed ad for $77, just in case anyone is interested.

I just saw that. I notice the sale price keeps getting higher every time  ;D

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2013 at 7:38pm:

Yes, I'm now reading that they kind of lost $250 per fixed ad sale and they probably won't make the same promo again.. :(

So now they only lose $77 per sale this time (((59 + 250) / 2) - $77)?

good thing they won't have these offers again

Edit: I think one thing they are hoping to benefit from is people not knowing how many clicks the ads get. 16K * 7 works out to about 110K ads. That is in the same price range as what a micro ad would go for on the bigger sites

Updates on renting referral system :
http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=24654

We now pay for referral clicks on Micro Ads
http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=24844

Two good moves imho !  :cool1

Looks like the promotion is working. I'm seeing ads everywhere saying "Nerdbux has lots of ads again! Hurray!"

(okay, maybe not the hurray part)

Just right on time.. another "fixed ad" promo is up and running.
This time it's for 1 day only at the price of $15.

I actually needed something like that to promote ConstantBux but I'll purchase it tomorrow just
so that my ad will stay there when most will have expired..

Btw, IMO this is a nice "trick" from NerdBux owners..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Just throw a fixed ad promo every now and then, whenever they can afford it
to keep clicking hungry people plus advertisers happy.. and let them starve for
the rest of the month.. lol.. well this way just when somebody is almost ready
to whine for the lack of ads they make them bite their tongue.. and keep going.

Da*n. There goes my chance of promoting Constantbux at a good price. It was probably not such a good idea to use neobux.... you know, with the $85 price difference and all

ruicarlov wrote on 19^th Nov, 2013 at 12:00pm:

Da*n. There goes my chance of promoting Constantbux at a good price. It was probably not such a good idea to use neobux.... you know, with the $85 price difference and all

I've just placed my ad but feel free to do so too man..

It would be a good way to compare our campaigns and see which one works better.
Besides I benefit from ConstantBux traffic and growth either way from my ads there.. :)

I think it's less efficient if you place the same program twice on the same site.
Then again, I blew a lot of money in Neo for less than stellar results, so not much efficiency either.
Since the site is sitll rather unknown, I'll just have to explore other traffic sources. I could've used probux, but I totally forgot about it  :P. And now that I blew my advertising budget...

Black Friday sale coming up!


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Wow! We can't believe it. In about 6 months of NerdBux going online we've seen lots of ups and many downs but one of the goals we wanted to achieve happened a few hours ago... We hit the 200,000 member milestone! Special thanks to everyone who has supported NerdBux, we couldn't have done it without you. You are the BEST members in the entire PTC industry and we're so honored you have chosen NerdBux. If you have been hanging out in NerdBux this week, you may have heard the rumblings of Black Friday, our biggest sale of the year. It all starts this upcoming Thursday but we wanted to give you the inside scoop on it. Join our pre-Black Friday list today! Be sure to get your accounts all loaded up with funds because it's going to be an epic weekend! You aren't going to want to miss this. Thanks again for helping us reach 200,000 members. You guys are awesome!! The TimTech Nerds of NerdBux

Details from the BFS mailing list:


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Hey Guys We are super PUMPED at the deals we have this year! But the catch is, the deals change every hour! So you'll have to keep coming back to our site to see what deal is there. On top of that, this year very few deals will be repeated. In the years prior we actually had "OK" deals that were sorta "filler" in between the awesome sauce deals. But this year Justin had a super awesome idea.. He had everyone on our team create a list of deals so this year we have more variety and bigger discounts! We are PUMPED!! If you are too, tweet us: http://clicktotweet.com/926Nf Tim Linden CTO TimTech LLC http://twitter.com/timlinden

  :)

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Hiya , Can you feel it? That's the excitement in the air for TimTech's Black Friday mega-sale and guess what...? We're only a day away! The sale starts at 6pm Eastern tomorrow but we've got something extra special planned as well... We will start streaming our live coverage of this year's Black Friday sale starting at 4pm Eastern at Traffic Exchange Live and we are going strong, throughout the weekend! Last year we streamed for 96 hours straight, this year...We're going even longer! Be sure to swing by all weekend long for contests, discussions, giveaways and of course, full coverage of every deal that pops up... It's going to be a lot of fun and we can't wait to see you. Remember, Black Friday starts at 6pm Eastern and you can follow the deals by clicking this link! http://timtech.us/blackfriday.php We'll see you tomorrow. Jon Olson CMO - TimTech LLC

1 million banner impressions for $10? Nice! I picked up a couple of those and since so many other are also, they don't go out too fast  :)

I bought the lifetime upgrade during the Black Friday Sale, 30 RR and extended 4 I had for 240 days.

So far so good, the 30 RR I have are active, would never think that could be possible! Am happy about it :)
I hope they'll have sales for the RR during Christmas sales so I will be able to extend those by 240 days too.

I think Nerdbux will become a good deal despite the difficult start, I do hope that there will be regular ads from now on and not only as a result of a promotion.

Oh look. Nerbux is promoting yet another new site by one of their 'friends'. Thankfully, it is only a Traffic Exchange this time  ::)

moneymarketing wrote on 28^th Jan, 2014 at 12:58am:

Oh look. Nerbux is promoting yet another new site by one of their 'friends'. Thankfully, it is only a Traffic Exchange this time  ::)

Looks like you're not the only one annoyed by those mass emails.. some old friends are too.. ;)

http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=65409

SolidSnake wrote on 30^th Jan, 2014 at 5:10pm:

Looks like you're not the only one annoyed by those mass emails.. some old friends are too.. ;) http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=65409

There are a lot of :censored kissers on that site(they seem to attract that kind of member)

And I see their arrogant attitude has come across from the TE industry too. Their "I'm the pro and we will do it my way" attitude will not sit well with a lot of members. It turned many members away from them in the TEs. Hopefully they really have learned as they say and they are not just saying what they think people want to hear

OK, I've said too much   :-X
Sophie really nailed it BTW  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 30^th Jan, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Sophie really nailed it BTW  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Indeed!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

We could say.. "It has been emotional!"..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Their recent changes attracted so many negative comments. (And I didn't like few of them too.)


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Reduced the max number of Rented Referrals for upgraded members to 2,000 Reduced the max number of Direct Referrals for upgraded members to 200 Reduced the amount free members earn per referral click to 30% Added a cap to the amount of money the membership can withdraw a day Time period between renting referrals for all membership levels is now 7 days Time period between cashout for upgraded members is now 5 days Time period between cashout for free members is now 10 days These changes were made for many reasons but ultimately they were all made for the long term viability of the program. Justin Ledvina - CEO Timtech

Particularly the daily cashout limit. (It remembers me JustBeenPaid / ProfitClicking, where people wait for the server reset time and submit the request.)

Many members are complaining that they saw "NerdBux is doing maintenance. Please wait" exactly at server reset time. (I too seen that thing while I was clicking once, exactly at server reset time.) They also say that after few minutes they saw "Daily limit reached" while trying to submit cashout request. Really really bad thing happening, if it is true.

At least TimTech should consider accepting cashout requests and processing them manually, so that they can keep within the daily limit. (I heard that Paypal has partially limited their account or something like that.)

Would anyone of us put ceiling on Direct Referrals, if we own a site?

venkat wrote on 31^st Jan, 2014 at 6:01am:

Their recent changes attracted so many negative comments. (And I didn't like few of them too.) Particularly the daily cashout limit. (It remembers me JustBeenPaid / ProfitClicking, where people wait for the server reset time and submit the request.) Many members are complaining that they saw "NerdBux is doing maintenance. Please wait" exactly at server reset time. (I too seen that thing while I was clicking once, exactly at server reset time.) They also say that after few minutes they saw "Daily limit reached" while trying to submit cashout request. Really really bad thing happening, if it is true. At least TimTech should consider accepting cashout requests and processing them manually, so that they can keep within the daily limit. (I heard that Paypal has partially limited their account or something like that.) Would anyone of us put ceiling on Direct Referrals, if we own a site?

Wow, that is shocking news. I agree and I can't see any reason to limit direct referrals unless they were losing money on what people were earning on referrals. Either that or they just want to keep more for themselves by using the limits as an excuse to take referrals that exceed the limit when a person runs a campaign

venkat wrote on 31^st Jan, 2014 at 6:01am:

Would anyone of us put ceiling on Direct Referrals, if we own a site?

Another reason might be that they are losing money on the fixed ads so they are trying to slow the growth of the site. If this is the case they could raise prices for the fixed ads to compensate but maybe they are afraid that a drop in ads might cause a loss of membership

News : It's developing further.

Members started posting complaints on NerdBux forum itself and there is no one to respond. :-/

Just 2 days back I used my earnings and quit it. But I didn't expect this. The earnings were very slow with 20 RRs, so I decided to quit.

venkat wrote on 31^st Jan, 2014 at 9:13am:

News : It's developing further. Members started posting complaints on NerdBux forum itself and there is no one to respond. :-/ Just 2 days back I used my earnings and quit it. But I didn't expect this. The earnings were very slow with 20 RRs, so I decided to quit.

I have 36 direct some of which are very very active.. but still the earning rate is very slow..
It doesn't even cover my $5 grid I purchase there monthly..
That's why I stopped promoting it a long time ago..

Before quitting, I even asked whether I could fund the account (via payza) by sending money instead of doing through their site. Their site says 'Minimum funding is $5' but I had only $2. I just wanted to add that money too, but the admin simply said '$5 is the minimum.' (I just received this one line reply.)

I felt some rudeness there.

venkat wrote on 31^st Jan, 2014 at 10:02am:

Before quitting, I even asked whether I could fund the account (via payza) by sending money instead of doing through their site. Their site says 'Minimum funding is $5' but I had only $2. I just wanted to add that money too, but the admin simply said '$5 is the minimum.' (I just received this one line reply.) I felt some rudeness there.

Well if you have some direct refs.. it could work out whenever they through out special promos and the ads page gets floaded with fixed ads.. Those days are somewhat generating some money to reach their cashouts.. But we're talking about pennies again..

I've often wondered why sites even sell fixed ads at all. They must be a pretty big gamble. Especially if your site is growing. You either risk losing money or you risk losing customers because you have to always raise your prices to compensate for the extra clickers.

That is not a risk I would like to deal with as an owner. I would prefer fixed costs to fixed ads

I think the goal of fixed ads is to have a more stable amount of ads for members to click everyday. With nothing but fixed cost ads it's more common to have a lot of ads one day and almost nothing in the others. While this isn't inherently bad, it may cause some friction with some members, namely the ones with rented referrals.

But also there is the side of the owner that hope for some members to not click some days so that they get more profits..
It's a gamble for both owner and advertiser so it should be avoided..

On another forum the NerdBux admin said this about the fixed ads promotions: "Yup, we're taking a loss on it. We know that...But it was needed to get people happy again lol"

looks like they are now facing the consequences :(

Dav7 wrote on 1^st Feb, 2014 at 9:45pm:

On another forum the NerdBux admin said this about the fixed ads promotions: "Yup, we're taking a loss on it. We know that...But it was needed to get people happy again lol" looks like they are now facing the consequences :(

Plus they never seem to learn, so here we go again...

http://trck.me/227733/banner.jpg

::)

If only 30.000 out of 300.000 members click this ad daily their cost will be :

30.000 x $0.001 x 30 days = $900 and they sell it @ $299...

Not including any referral earnings at all...
Ok, way to go TimTech.. I guess they failed the Math class at school...
Could they be trying to get their account limited?  :-?

SolidSnake wrote on 2^nd Feb, 2014 at 6:50pm:

Plus they never seem to learn, so here we go again... http://trck.me/227733/banner.jpg ::) If only 30.000 out of 300.000 members click this ad daily their cost will be : 30.000 x $0.001 x 30 days = $900 and they sell it @ $299... Not including any referral earnings at all... Ok, way to go TimTech.. I guess they failed the Math class at school... Could they be trying to get their account limited?  :-?

HA!HA! Yes, that is possible. That is a great excuse for not paying members isn't it? When I ran that fixed ad back when they had 100K+ members, I was getting something like 15K clicks per day. The membership has easily double by then so this has to be a guaranteed losing ad. I can't see how they can possibly make a profit on this unless it is via banner sales and maybe signups to their own banners in the system 

No matter what happens, we have a ringside seat to see what happens

Oh Boy, I haven't thought of this guy in a while: http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/popcorn.gif

Basically I'm quite sure they are delivering many more clicks these days..
My last campaign with them was back in November and they were delivering more than 35.000 hits / day with ~200.000.
Now they have 50% more members than then.. Do I hear a ticking or am I just being "ridiculous" as some say?

Here have some more fun : http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=67657

Not only you, I too have been ridiculous  ;D (Words like "fools", "idiots", "sh*t" and this "ridiculous" have become common to forum people. They use it without actually meaning it.)

Do you have any script to detect bot hits SS? I have that doubt too on NerdBux. (This doubt is recently developed in my mind.)

venkat wrote on 3^rd Feb, 2014 at 6:35am:

Do you have any script to detect bot hits SS? I have that doubt too on NerdBux. (This doubt is recently developed in my mind.)

No I don't have any special software for this purpose but you can track each referral's daily clicks using excel with sorting.
In PTCSolution for example all 30 referrals I had rented, clicked EVERY SINGLE DAY the same amount of ads.. 15 clicked 1 ad and 15 clicked 2 ads per day. What kind of human is active every single day of a month but only clicks 1 ad. And how often does it happen in the PTC industry to rent 30 referrals that are 100% clickers.. :)

I'm not sure of how referrals work on NerdBux.. never tried them and possibly never will..
I'm happy with my direct ones though I'm unhappy with the referral earnings rates.
It takes way too many referral clicks just to reach the payout..

From the stats I've seen in their forum, it's hard to get a decent profit from rented referrals, as the margins are too small. The needed averages are around 6-7ads for Premium members, and the actual averages are very close to that, somedays there are even some losses.
Because of that I never invested in rented referrals in Nerdbux.

@ SS..

I was talking about delivering bot hits to advertisers' pages.

Since you are regularly buying ads at various sites, I thought you would have included that script in your page.

venkat wrote on 3^rd Feb, 2014 at 4:18pm:

@ SS.. I was talking about delivering bot hits to advertisers' pages. Since you are regularly buying ads at various sites, I thought you would have included that script in your page.

Apart from the search engines' bots, i don't know if it's possible to classify the traffic to bots/humans..
The only thing I have is how many unique visitors I get per 24h compared to the total hits I receive..
etc. yesterday it was 8919 total hits - 5449 uniques.. It's normal to get returning hits when using the
grids because some people use them extensively and visit the same sites more than once.. plus they
grid surf in more than one sites I advertise..

Actually, when I using just one grid, the returning hits are a minority. At least in Clixsense. Most hits I got there were unique hits.
Can't say for sure about other sites, since the stats aren't as detailed.

moneymarketing wrote on 30^th Jan, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Sophie really nailed it BTW  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

@ SS,

Speaking of Sophie, do you think you could try to get her to join in your YGP downline? Perhaps send her a reminder or something? 

dansbanners wrote on 7^th Feb, 2014 at 5:12pm:

@ SS, Speaking of Sophie, do you think you could try to get her to join in your YGP downline? Perhaps send her a reminder or something?

I've tried contacting her through PM a long time ago but it's been a long time since she showed up here..
I could contact her through email but I know very well how much she hates spam.. and contacting her
just to join YGP might seem like spamming her and I would never want her to feel like that..  Do you think I should?  :-/

Well, a less spammy way to contact her would be through PM on her own forum just like the way I invited her here in the beginning..
I guess I could try that first.. pointing to our discussion here.. that could work..  ::)

SolidSnake wrote on 3^rd Feb, 2014 at 4:19am:

Here have some more fun : http://www.nerdbux.com/forum.php?topic=67657

The guys are also magicians!
My thread is only visible using the direct link.. try to browse to it through the forum's navigation and voila! It's invisible! :)

No it's not. I found it. Just sort the topics by 'Recently Updated', and it's on the end of page 2.

ruicarlov wrote on 9^th Feb, 2014 at 12:33pm:

No it's not. I found it. Just sort the topics by 'Recently Updated', and it's on the end of page 2.

Well, you're right.. that was not magic.. only a magic trick..
They make you look for something in a specific place when you would have to look elsewhere to see what's actually happening.. :)

Weird though what is the default sorting method? I can't seem to figure that out..

That's something I've observed at Twickerz forum, too. From the 1st to the 2nd page there is a huge jump in posting dates. This must be a bug with PTCevolution forums.

dansbanners wrote on 7^th Feb, 2014 at 5:12pm:

@ SS, Speaking of Sophie, do you think you could try to get her to join in your YGP downline? Perhaps send her a reminder or something?

Aha, I must have felt the love and had an irresistible desire to come here and see how you all are doing  8-)

I am less online than before, do my regular daily clicks on a  few sites but am less active in forums, even my own lol.

So, give me a link where I have to go for that YGP thingy but it has to be really good because I promised myself to not join anything anymore for the moment, am swamped with ofline life ;)

sophieca wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 12:18am:

Aha, I must have felt the love and had an irresistible desire to come here and see how you all are doing  8-) I am less online than before, do my regular daily clicks on a  few sites but am less active in forums, even my own lol. So, give me a link where I have to go for that YGP thingy but it has to be really good because I promised myself to not join anything anymore for the moment, am swamped with ofline life ;)

Glad to see you back Sophie! :)
Well, if YOU are not active in forums anymore then "the end of the world" must be really close..  [smiley=lolx.gif]
Or maybe it's simply us that need to get a life, an offline one.. Ok sorry for my ugly jokes..

Let's get back to business, for a detailed explanation about the YGP thing please check out your PM inbox.

You can also read how we're doing as a team so far with YGP in its dedicated thread.

Moreover, the downline builder thread is here if you decide to hop in.
I bet you remember how it works from GPR.. :)

sophieca wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 12:18am:

Aha, I must have felt the love and had an irresistible desire to come here and see how you all are doing  8-) I am less online than before, do my regular daily clicks on a  few sites but am less active in forums, even my own lol. So, give me a link where I have to go for that YGP thingy but it has to be really good because I promised myself to not join anything anymore for the moment, am swamped with ofline life ;)

There is the link in the downline builder here:

http://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1378896664

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 1:49am:

There is the link in the downline builder here: http://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1378896664

( HA! Got ya this time! :P )

Aha, indeed, if I am not active in forums anymore, there must be something wrong lol

I simply have too much work so am a lot on the compputer but not that much on forums ... am never very far tho ;)

It's late now so I won't look into all this tonight, I'll do it as soon as possible, thanks for your quick replies !

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 1:49am:

( HA! Got ya this time! :P )

D'oh!  :o

Beat me by seconds, literally. The minute stamp is the same.

I DEMAND A RECOUNT!  :beatup

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 1:22pm:

D'oh!  :o Beat me by seconds, literally. The minute stamp is the same. I DEMAND A RECOUNT!  :beatup

Sometimes it's good to accept defeat as cold and bad as it tastes.. [smiley=selfconf.gif] ;D [smiley=lolx.gif] :P

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Sometimes it's good to accept defeat as cold and bad as it tastes.. [smiley=selfconf.gif] ;D [smiley=lolx.gif] :P

[smiley=sad.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 7:44pm:

[smiley=sad.gif]

I could get you an ice-cream.. you know.. something nice and sweet to make you feel better (though it lasts only 5 minutes)..
But wait.. you didn't give free ice-cream to your refs.. so you don't deserve that as well..  >:(

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Feb, 2014 at 7:47pm:

I could get you an ice-cream.. you know.. something nice and sweet to make you feel better (though it lasts only 5 minutes).. But wait.. you didn't give free ice-cream to your refs.. so you don't deserve that as well..  >:(

One in versus 72 out....I'm still ahead on that deal  :P

despite all the problems they have, I managed to be paid twice this month from Nerdbux :
Feb 14 2014 10:02:49 AM                  2.47      Completed
Feb 7 2014 03:21:04 AM                  9.53      Completed
Jan 17 2014 02:01:00 AM                  2.00      Completed
Jan 10 2014 04:44:20 AM                  17.00      Completed
Dec 23 2013 03:13:13 AM                  8.00      Completed
Sep 27 2013 02:57:11 AM                  4.08      Completed
Sep 4 2013 05:38:56 AM                  4.00      Completed

Today it took me loads of refresh but I finally got there .... now if they fix their stuff and maybe unban a few of those banned for wierd reasons, then I will consider promoting them again.

Actually, I did like their latest email. It came across as more humble. They acknowledged they are making mistakes and are doing what they can to fix them. I'll give them points for a better attitude  :)

sophieca wrote on 14^th Feb, 2014 at 5:11pm:

Today it took me loads of refresh but I finally got there .... now if they fix their stuff and maybe unban a few of those banned for wierd reasons, then I will consider promoting them again.

so when we get the message: "We've reached the daily payout limit, please try again tomorrow." we just have to press F5 ?

Dav7 wrote on 15^th Feb, 2014 at 12:47am:

so when we get the message: "We've reached the daily payout limit, please try again tomorrow." we just have to press F5 ?

yes, another member in the french subfolder at Nerdbux said he did the same today and finally could cash out as well.

I didn't try without pausing lol, I tried 5 minutes, continued my work, tried again half an hour later and so on, succeeded after a few times.

Good luck :)

I'm getting lots of bad feedback about NerdBux. Besides, I myself don't like their recent developments. (Probably because I stepped in.  [smiley=z03-lol.gif] )

venkat wrote on 17^th Feb, 2014 at 6:44am:

I'm getting lots of bad feedback about NerdBux. Besides, I myself don't like their recent developments. (Probably because I stepped in.  [smiley=z03-lol.gif] )

I'm trying to cashout since february 13th ...:S

venkat wrote on 17^th Feb, 2014 at 6:44am:

I'm getting lots of bad feedback about NerdBux. Besides, I myself don't like their recent developments. (Probably because I stepped in.  [smiley=z03-lol.gif] )

Venkat, YOU BROKE THE INTERNET!

(How's that for my moneymarketing impression? ;D )

:D

I am the cure for the disease. Bring out the hidden problem, treat it and stabilize it. (It happens to every industry that I step in.)

Now I just entered into Direct Selling, and I'm hearing that our Government is forming new rules for Direct Selling.  [smiley=z03-lol.gif]

Just read that NerdBux has been bought by the notorious Jeffrey Johnson. (And JJ confirms it on the EMS forum.)

http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,328073.0.html

Yet no official announcement on NerdBux site.

venkat wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Just read that NerdBux has been bought by the notorious Jeffrey Johnson. (And JJ confirms it on the EMS forum.) http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,328073.0.html Yet no official announcement on NerdBux site.

The Nerdbux's announcements folder in their forum is now empty..  [smiley=07-whaat.gif]
I also read that their PayPal account got limited... which would not be unexpected based on their fixed ads super sales strategy..

Also there are more threads on the subject..  etc. :
http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,328067.0.html

[edit]Venkat, what did you do?!?  :o
I can't access their site at all now!
It was online a few moments ago![/edit]

if JJ has it expect it gone or going

jld wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 4:02pm:

if JJ has it expect it gone or going

Wow, nice to see you here again jld!

Well, I'm not sure about JJ he's always seemed a bit weird to me in his replies..
I don't really know how good he's at managing a PTC site but I didn't like TimTech's work in that area..

SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 2:02pm:

The Nerdbux's announcements folder in their forum is now empty..  [smiley=07-whaat.gif] I also read that their PayPal account got limited... which would not be unexpected based on their fixed ads super sales strategy.. Also there are more threads on the subject..  etc. : http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,328067.0.html [edit]Venkat, what did you do?!?  :o I can't access their site at all now! It was online a few moments ago![/edit]

So did we call this one or did we call this one? I hope everyone heeded the fair warning and did not overextend themselves

moneymarketing wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 4:45pm:

So did we call this one or did we call this one?

Neither of them.
It was more along the lines of "we called this one"
::)

SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 2:02pm:

[edit]Venkat, what did you do?!?  I can't access their site at all now! It was online a few moments ago![/edit]

You should have known it was coming.  [smiley=lolx.gif]


SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 4:13pm:

Well, I'm not sure about JJ he's always seemed a bit weird to me in his replies.. I don't really know how good he's at managing a PTC site but I didn't like TimTech's work in that area..

I'm sure you would remember 2dollarclicks, 6dollarclicks and so many similar sites. They all belong to JJ.

Lovely.
The nerds are as good as goners.
JJ's known on EMS as the guy that makes absurd TOS that only let you withdraw 50.000 years later.

For such a big TE giant, they failed spectacularly at PTCs. Good thing I didn't invest. The thought did cross my mind *shivers* :phew

JJ made an announcement here: http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,328067.0.html

for me is the coming of a known SCAMMER so I'm out and will flag NerdBux as a site to avoid

JJ has never been trustworthy I have avoided him for over 10 years

Good to know, I changed the title of the thread to show the new owner and moved it to the warning section to make things clearer..

jld wrote on 18^th Mar, 2014 at 4:02pm:

if JJ has it expect it gone or going

I remember you too. Welcome back to the forum!

And the story continues.. :


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Hello members of nerdbux.com: It is with heavy heart I write this admin. PayPal has blacklisted the nerdbux.com domain. I spent last few days looking into nerdbux.com and what TimTech been saying is true. They do not use bots. Worse there is a major cheating problem. I was shocked by some people I known who are cheaters. Due to fact this is United States based company without PayPal there is not much hope. So we will be editing terms. NerdBux will not be able to pay members. I had big hopes for site but all of them required having use of PayPal. If mad please take it out on me and not TimTech. Yours in Christ name, Jeffrey Johnson President and CEO Nerdbux LLC

Many people have a heavy heart lately.. :-/
It may be a heart attacking dissease..

Well if you're working on PTCs and have a heavy heart lately you should have yourself checked up.. it's not good!  [smiley=sorry.gif]

So noone is responsible, it even seems like we should feel sorry for Timtech,if it wasn't that sad, it would be funny !

Each time we think we have seen it all, some still can do worse ....


NB *waving at jld* :)

dansbanners wrote on 19^th Mar, 2014 at 10:33pm:

I remember you too. Welcome back to the forum!

*waving at Dan*

sophieca wrote on 20^th Mar, 2014 at 8:03pm:

So noone is responsible, it even seems like we should feel sorry for Timtech,if it wasn't that sad, it would be funny ! Each time we think we have seen it all, some still can do worse .... NB *waving at jld* :)

Hi Sophie *waving*

well JJ as he says has ran over 30 ptc sites ALL SCAM,and if you look at some of his terms like at 100dollarptc it says your minimum cashout is 50 trillion dollars and you will be paid ny check...lmao i had to go there and read to beleive,and then at 2$clicks he put you must withdraw on your 126th birthday, and on 9he wrote to withdraw you must be born on leap year that coinsided with a year of a lunar eclipse...lmfao guys you got to read jjohnsons t.o.s.

sparky81 wrote on 21^st Mar, 2014 at 7:16pm:

well JJ as he says has ran over 30 ptc sites ALL SCAM,and if you look at some of his terms like at 100dollarptc it says your minimum cashout is 50 trillion dollars and you will be paid ny check...lmao i had to go there and read to beleive,and then at 2$clicks he put you must withdraw on your 126th birthday, and on 9he wrote to withdraw you must be born on leap year that coinsided with a year of a lunar eclipse...lmfao guys you got to read jjohnsons t.o.s.

That is bordering on fraud. He better watch that someone doesn't report him to the FTC

sparky81 wrote on 21^st Mar, 2014 at 7:16pm:

well JJ as he says has ran over 30 ptc sites ALL SCAM,and if you look at some of his terms like at 100dollarptc it says your minimum cashout is 50 trillion dollars and you will be paid ny check...lmao i had to go there and read to beleive,and then at 2$clicks he put you must withdraw on your 126th birthday, and on 9he wrote to withdraw you must be born on leap year that coinsided with a year of a lunar eclipse...lmfao guys you got to read jjohnsons t.o.s.

It makes you wonder why some people believe in some people even after they work like that... :-(
How does he get away with such enormous scamming t.o.s.?
Sparky could you please post some links to those t.o.s. pages so that we have them easy to point to?
Is there a list anywhere online grouping all the PTC sites that he currently owns?

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Mar, 2014 at 5:45pm:

It makes you wonder why some people believe in some people even after they work like that... :-( How does he get away with such enormous scamming t.o.s.? Sparky could you please post some links to those t.o.s. pages so that we have them easy to point to? Is there a list anywhere online grouping all the PTC sites that he currently owns?

Yes, exactly. By pulling this stuff he is harming the businesses and reputations of legitimate PTC sites by making them all look like scammers. No wonder Paypal wants nothing to do with us

I visited 100 Dollar PTC and read their T.o.S. It's bizarre yep.. but also I noticed that the company behind it is New Online Visions..

http://www.newonlinevisions.com/index2.html

Does this "Company" belong to JJ?

It provides a nice list of sites.. and I have to quote the part that left me speachless...


Quote:

In October 2013, we started reorganizing our support desk to increase our efficiency. We also wrote our mission statement: New Online Visions, LLC provides Biblical based sites to teach people to read terms and try not to get rich quick in order that they have common sense and become empowered so they can have Hope in rest there lives.

See..? They do everything for a good cause..  :dontknow

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Mar, 2014 at 7:17pm:

I visited 100 Dollar PTC and read their T.o.S. It's bizarre yep.. but also I noticed that the company behind it is New Online Visions.. http://www.newonlinevisions.com/index2.html Does this "Company" belong to JJ? It provides a nice list of sites.. and I have to quote the part that left me speachless... See..? They do everything for a good cause..  :dontknow

Wow, so he's a scammer in the name of God. I too am stunned  [smiley=sad.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 22^nd Mar, 2014 at 7:44pm:

Wow, so he's a scammer in the name of God. I too am stunned  [smiley=sad.gif]

Ok, I have a plan to stop him once and for all!

Venkat, go ahead and join all of these sites in the list..
Ruicarlov.. just think about visiting these sites..

I think that would be enough to see them all offline tomorrow..  [smiley=lolx.gif]
We are unstoppable!

Do you know why JJ was unable to pay the members? Just because my account was alive in NerdBux while he took over.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Had the nerds suspended my account on first hand they could have survived.

Here we come, JJ !!  [smiley=together.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 23^rd Mar, 2014 at 12:47am:

Ok, I have a plan to stop him once and for all! Venkat, go ahead and join all of these sites in the list.. Ruicarlov.. just think about visiting these sites.. I think that would be enough to see them all offline tomorrow..  [smiley=lolx.gif] We are unstoppable!

Yes, we are the touch of death. For my part I'll invest a dollar into one of them. That will take down his site, the city he lives in and probably the state too  :D

I am the hope of the PTCverse. I am the byte that shines the in darkness.
I am the dollar in the Paypal account for all living beings that cry out in poverty.
I am the alfa and the omega.
I am the terror that clicks in the night.
I AM RUICARLOV! And I am a super.... PTCman.

ruicarlov wrote on 23^rd Mar, 2014 at 1:01pm:

I am the terror that clicks in the night.

:handsdown @ Rui! That was epic!

And all I have to do is get close and make an advertising deal with him.. I think that would be enough!
Ok, he's got no chance! :)

I really think we should find someone that draws well and help us make a comic newsletter or sth.. lol
The ideas on possible episodes just keep coming through my head.. lol

Rui (aka PTCMan) the Mighty PTC Super Hero that always saves the day..
Venkat - The destruction expert..
MM - The man who always gets what he wants.. (or string puller if you prefer :P )
As for me.. I'd love to be the information broker...

The TE guys could be the dark force that wants to overtake the PTC industry while JJ could be the final super villain of the first season..

Ok, I think I need to copyright my idea.. [smiley=lolx.gif]

Don't give me too much credit. That little poem was my spin on a great parody made by Tearfourstar in their Dragonball Z abridged series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gqcwhOiBY

SolidSnake wrote on 24^th Mar, 2014 at 12:48am:

:handsdown @ Rui! That was epic! And all I have to do is get close and make an advertising deal with him.. I think that would be enough! Ok, he's got no chance! :) I really think we should find someone that draws well and help us make a comic newsletter or sth.. lol The ideas on possible episodes just keep coming through my head.. lol Rui (aka PTCMan) the Mighty PTC Super Hero that always saves the day.. Venkat - The destruction expert.. MM - The man who always gets what he wants.. (or string puller if you prefer :P ) As for me.. I'd love to be the information broker... The TE guys could be the dark force that wants to overtake the PTC industry while JJ could be the final super villain of the first season.. Ok, I think I need to copyright my idea.. [smiley=lolx.gif]

Don't forget Dan. He is Mr. Positive. He puts out the positivity wavelength (I think he's a freakin' care bear or something). Not only does it strengthen the team to do their work but it also weakens the resolve of those dastardly PTC owners.

You don`t think it was your well written emails that got all those time extensions do you?

moneymarketing wrote on 24^th Mar, 2014 at 5:16pm:

Don't forget Dan. He is Mr. Positive. He puts out the positivity wavelength (I think he's a freakin' care bear or something). Not only does it strengthen the team to do their work but it also weakens the resolve of those dastardly PTC owners. You don`t think it was your well written emails that got all those time extensions do you?

Of course!

Dan is the positive protection shield that guards us, so that we can always do some damage without getting hurt.. :P
Not to mention that he helps us all stay sane and prevents our world from tearing apart..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

"Guess who's back, back again.."

I received this email yesterday..


Quote:

Hi SolidSnake We're celebrating spring with a 65% off coupon code at DoctorTraffic: ==> http // www doctortraffic net/?coupon=spring You can pick any package and it'll be 65% off using that link. Want 100,000 hits? 65% off! Want 10,000 unique hits in 10 days or less? 65% off! Tim Linden CTO TimTech LLC

The funny thing is that I'm not in any sites that TimTech currently owns..
So... how is my email in their list..? lol

You are in their RocketResponder's list. (TimTech's another auto-responder site.)

Even when NerdBux was alive all mails used to come from RocketResponder only. (Just clicking 'No' option for 'Admin mails' in NerdBux panel didn't stop it. I had to unsubscribe from rocketresponder. The link could be found in the email at the bottom.)

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Apr, 2014 at 1:14am:

"Guess who's back, back again.." I received this email yesterday.. The funny thing is that I'm not in any sites that TimTech currently owns.. So... how is my email in their list..? lol

I got it too. They quickly lost me on their email list. You probably signed up when Nerdbux had their sale days. I'm guessing their Black Friday sales from last year when they were giving everyone early notice.

Wow, those guys sure have burned a lot of bridges