Do we actually not have a neobux post?

Well, time to start one I guess.

After a year of frustration tonight ends a mini era for me:


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Your Golden Membership will expire in less than 24 hours!

I really did try hard to work this but have seen nothing but scraping along break even. I know I probably did not do things right but it seems you have to fly perfect in this site in order to make a buck.

So forget it, I'm not going to spend that kind of money to upgrade again. I have a little cash in there and 19 rented referrals. I'm going to try it from scratch as a free member. If it works, it works. If not then too bad. I'm not going to worry about it. I'll still use the site for advertising. I can get referrals for clixsense there and I am at the level where I can afford to lose on the referrals up front in order to make it back in the long run.

So this site has it's place but it is not for making money for me at this point. If I wanted to pull teeth I would have become a dentist

Quick question. Was 19 rented referrals the most you've had?

Thread removed..!

Ok, just kidding..
Well, it seems that the only people actually earning something on neobux are the ones using the following route which is definitely not for me..:

[list bull-greensq]

Ultimate Membership

2000+ referrals extended for 240 days

Daily activity without any pauses.. :)

A LOT of luck in terms of active referrals-recycling..

Ability to beat up your frustration... especially when being censored in the forum.

Apart from these it's a great site! So good luck with it! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

PS. Trying it from the scratch as standard will not get you anywhere..
If you didn't make it as Golden do you really feel it would work for a standard?  :-/

ruicarlov wrote on 16^th Nov, 2014 at 12:25pm:

Quick question. Was 19 rented referrals the most you've had?

No, I was up to something like 385 or something and trying to build higher but my cash flow wasn't high enough for me to buy the highest discounted referral extension so I was just treading water

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Nov, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Thread removed..! Ok, just kidding.. Well, it seems that the only people actually earning something on neobux are the ones using the following route which is definitely not for me..: [list bull-greensq] Ultimate Membership 2000+ referrals extended for 240 days Daily activity without any pauses.. :) A LOT of luck in terms of active referrals-recycling.. Ability to beat up your frustration... especially when being censored in the forum. Apart from these it's a great site! So good luck with it! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] PS. Trying it from the scratch as standard will not get you anywhere.. If you didn't make it as Golden do you really feel it would work for a standard?  :-/

I'm going to give it a try for a couple reasons.

1. I already related to Rui that I wasn't able to maintain the deep discounted extensions on the referrals I had. That was due to inexperience. When I start new, I'll rent the referral and extend it long right away. So it will be built right the first time

2. This is not so much about not renting referrals as it is about not wanting to sink another $90 into the site for a year long extension. If they offered monthly subscription, then maybe they would have me as an upgrade. I'm wondering how much they are stifling their business by doing it this way.

3. Part of it is also that I am still mad by the rented referral thing they do when you upgrade. Having the RRs click rate drop after you upgrade is something I feel I need to punish as a customer. Unless people vote with their wallets, things won't change. So this thing is put in the 'hobby' category until they start paying me enough to participate.

We'll see how my cash flow is when I have my free member referral limit maxed out and if I see something positive there, then they will get another chance

4. Ultimate membership?  [smiley=lolx.gif]
yeah...uhhh...NO! There is no way I am going to risk that much money on an UM and 2000 RR's when, as you say, there requires daily work (including clicking all the ads and filling out all the offers) and maybe still a bit of luck with the recycling. That is just not on for me. So into the hobby bin it goes

Exactly! That's what I also had in mind.
Plus the reason I've said this :


SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Nov, 2014 at 12:36pm:

PS. Trying it from the scratch as standard will not get you anywhere.. If you didn't make it as Golden do you really feel it would work for a standard?  :-/

..is that even when extending the referrals to the maximum possible duration, the money you earn from referral clicks as standard will most likely not cover your expenses, even less likely to give you a profit.. and the daily clicking rule turns that to a nightmare..

Don't forget that in neobux as standard you earn only 50% and ONLY from the 4 fixed ads, plus the extended and standard ones IF they are EVER available to you and IF you EVER make it to click them on time before their few clicks get depleted..

So, your best case of a referral is one that will click all 4 fixed ads daily earning you 4 x $0.005 = $0.02 daily every day.
That would theoretically earn you 30 x $0.02 = $0.60 / month provided that you also click every single day.

The standard or initial cost per referral is $0.20 per month and goes down to $0.14 per month if you extend them for 240 days.
So at the "absolutely perfect" case you will be earning $0.60-$0.14=$0.46 / month per perfect rented referral.

Now a few more notes to keep in mind.. [list bull-redball]

That amount gets gradually reduced if you get more than 250 refs.

A day lost will mean that that amount will be reduced by $0.02(daily earning) while you will still have to pay the rental cost.
Of course you may occasionally receive a small bonus from them clicking an extended or standard ad but how likely is that to happen?

Recycling costs $0.07.. which is a lot.. you may end up paying more if you have to do that 2 or 3 times a month due to getting inactive referrals.

Not to mention the possibility that what you actually rent could simply be a bucket of controllable by the system bots.. You felt it yourself once you upgraded didn't you?

I personally feel it's rather obvious when I see so many referrals logging in every single day of the month only to click on one or two ads and ignore the rest.. Seriously that makes absolutely no sense for a logical human being.

I understand if one does so for a few days to test the system, it is ok.. but not every freaking single day of the month.. at that awkward moment I feel really offended..!  >:(

Ok, I need to calm down again..  :phew
So.. Rui could you point some light to the typical averages you have experienced there and if there was a bot-like balance on that or not..?

I've got a few strategies that I want to try that are not taught to people. If they work then I should at least turn a profit on the site but I need to start from scratch.

I will have a little seed money. I have almost $8 left over from what I've done so far but that is it.

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Nov, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Ok, just kidding.. Well, it seems that the only people actually earning something on neobux are the ones using the following route which is definitely not for me..: [list bull-greensq] Ultimate Membership 2000+ referrals extended for 240 days Daily activity without any pauses.. :) A LOT of luck in terms of active referrals-recycling.. Ability to beat up your frustration... especially when being censored in the forum. Apart from these it's a great site! So good luck with it! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] PS. Trying it from the scratch as standard will not get you anywhere.. If you didn't make it as Golden do you really feel it would work for a standard?  :-/

It's more like this:

[list bull-greensq]

Ultimate Membership

2000+ referrals extended for 240 days

OR

Daily activity without any pauses.. :)

A LOT of luck in terms of active referrals-recycling..

Ability to beat up your frustration... especially when being censored in the forum.


Honestly, if you've got Ultimate and +2000 RR, it's pretty much money on autopilot. You don't need luck, you don't need to click, you can go on a coma and still profit, just like that guy that was in the hospital. Averages are very stable for the most part, around 0.70 +/- 0.03. Ever since I've got over 2000 RR, I've never, ever had a single day with losses.

It's only if you're not able to get there that things get harder. I can experience both sides of the spectrum. On one side I'm an Ultimate, but my mother is a standard member with no investment. Both accounts right now are sustainable and profitable, although with a standard it take a loooong time to build up your account. And you need some luck with RR. In the beginning it was hard to get some decent ones, but now my mom has a couple of them with are passable and net a bit of profit almost everyday.

I'm sure it's relatively stress-free until you get 250RR as a Standard. When you upgrade to Golden things can get trickier if you're not at 500RR. That's the safest point for the Gold account.

Hmm.. I forgot that the clicking rule is not required for Ultimates..
I read Regen's post that he clicked daily but that's most likely the addiction.. lol
Ok, that could be interesting but only for large scale investors..

Well, if I get to the point where I make some hundreds per month online I'll consider adding neobux to my list.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Nov, 2014 at 3:00am:

Hmm.. I forgot that the clicking rule is not required for Ultimates.. I read Regen's post that he clicked daily but that's most likely the addiction.. lol

Probably. I click everyday, too.  ::) Besides the addiction, the extra >$100 per year from our clicks alone is not too shaby for a traditional PTC.

Weird.. I noticed that I got a referral in NeoBux about a month ago and he has been clicking ever since..

[smiley=07-whaat.gif]

Funny thing is I am not even promoting it anywhere.. he may have come from one of my old blogs..
And the funniest thing of all is that his username is : solidsnake91
He's one of my kind.. :D

SolidSnake wrote on 9^th Sep, 2015 at 9:38pm:

Weird.. I noticed that I got a referral in NeoBux about a month ago and he has been clicking ever since.. [smiley=07-whaat.gif] Funny thing is I am not even promoting it anywhere.. he may have come from one of my old blogs.. And the funniest thing of all is that his username is : solidsnake91 He's one of my kind.. :D

Lots of people are pulling their hair out in frustration of not being able to get direct refs at Neo and you manage to get one without even trying....
Alright, 'fess up. How much hacking did you do?

To be honest, I also got a ref at Neobux coming from Paidverts, and I don't usually promote it that much. Maybe once or twice in an adpack....
He stopped clicking, though.

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As you're aware we'll soon be enabling payment requests using Skrill. The association to your Skrill account will be made using the email address associated to it. Basically it will work the same way as it does for PayPal and Payza. Right now we took the liberty of setting your Skrill email to be the same as your personal email since that's what usually is for most users. If your Skrill account's email address is different you can take the time to change it in your personal settings and it will be ready 48 hours after the change well before the payment requests are ready. If you don't use a Skrill account just leave the email as is because it won't interfere with anything else. Payment requests using Skrill will be available sometime next week so please take the time to revise the Skrill's email address in your personal settings and change it if necessary.

I'm wondering if they are either sensing the writing on the wall regarding paypal or have been getting agitated by them recently that they are moving to more payment processors. We could be seeing neobux announcing the end of their relationship with paypal soon possibly

moneymarketing wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 2:48am:

I'm wondering if they are either sensing the writing on the wall regarding paypal or have been getting agitated by them recently that they are moving to more payment processors. We could be seeing neobux announcing the end of their relationship with paypal soon possibly

Not sure about that, they seem to have been getting along rather good those two.. :D

Also think of how many PTC users have been disappointed from PayPal events here and there, that could see neobux as the only actual safe way to deal with a PTC through PayPal.. Like an oasis in the desert of the fallen PTCs.. (wow.. that was so poetic..). I believe a lot of people have decided to settle down with neobux as their only option.. shaking that would be devastating even for neobux.

On the other hand, since PayPal is PayPal.. I also believe Neo may be one of the few around the world that could possibly have the economical capacity to move legally against PayPal in case of such an "event" and still have a chance to win a battle.. that's a huge maybe there..  ;D

Either way I don't think Neobux would at least want or intend to do something like that..

SolidSnake wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 3:04am:

Not sure about that, they seem to have been getting along rather good those two.. :D Also think of how many PTC users have been disappointed from PayPal events here and there, that could see neobux as the only actual safe way to deal with a PTC through PayPal.. Like an oasis in the desert of the fallen PTCs.. (wow.. that was so poetic..). I believe a lot of people have decided to settle down with neobux as their only option.. shaking that would be devastating even for neobux. On the other hand, since PayPal is PayPal.. I also believe Neo may be one of the few around the world that could possibly have the economical capacity to move legally against PayPal in case of such an "event" and still have a chance to win a battle.. that's a huge maybe there..  ;D Either way I don't think Neobux would at least want or intend to do something like that..

Having paypal in your business is sort of like having a knife wielding maniac as a roommate. Yes, things can go well for a while, but watch out for the time that he's playing with his knife and has that look in his eyes

moneymarketing wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Having paypal in your business is sort of like having a knife wielding maniac as a roommate. Yes, things can go well for a while, but watch out for the time that he's playing with his knife and has that look in his eyes

;D

There's no way he Neobux's admin isn't aware of the recent problems with Zigma network. I don't think it really means anything drastic, but diversification is a good strategy. While I used mainly Paypal and Payza with Neobux, right now I'm using only Payza, because their withdrawal fees are amazing for large cashouts (4$ for a 7400$ cashout? That's less than 0.1%). Even in other sites (Scarlet and GPTPlanet) I plan on making my next deposits using Perfect Money. Same for Twickerz, since their cashouts with Payza cost 8%  :-/

moneymarketing wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Having paypal in your business is sort of like having a knife wielding maniac as a roommate. Yes, things can go well for a while, but watch out for the time that he's playing with his knife and has that look in his eyes

Hmm.. that's a nice way to put it.. ;D  [smiley=lolx.gif]

ruicarlov wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 5:10pm:

;D There's no way he Neobux's admin isn't aware of the recent problems with Zigma network. I don't think it really means anything drastic, but diversification is a good strategy. While I used mainly Paypal and Payza with Neobux, right now I'm using only Payza, because their withdrawal fees are amazing for large cashouts (4$ for a 7400$ cashout? That's less than 0.1%). Even in other sites (Scarlet and GPTPlanet) I plan on making my next deposits using Perfect Money. Same for Twickerz, since their cashouts with Payza cost 8%  :-/

I think the future of the industry will be bitcoin. With the low fees, anonymity and even with sites like payza accepting them more sites and users will shift in that direction. The forward thinking ones are doing it now

ruicarlov wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 5:10pm:

;D There's no way he Neobux's admin isn't aware of the recent problems with Zigma network. I don't think it really means anything drastic, but diversification is a good strategy. While I used mainly Paypal and Payza with Neobux, right now I'm using only Payza, because their withdrawal fees are amazing for large cashouts (4$ for a 7400$ cashout? That's less than 0.1%). Even in other sites (Scarlet and GPTPlanet) I plan on making my next deposits using Perfect Money. Same for Twickerz, since their cashouts with Payza cost 8%  :-/

uuuhhhh, did you say $7400 for a cashout?  :o :o :o

Man, you are on a totally different level  :-?

moneymarketing wrote on 13^th Feb, 2016 at 9:36pm:

I think the future of the industry will be bitcoin. With the low fees, anonymity and even with sites like payza accepting them more sites and users will shift in that direction. The forward thinking ones are doing it now

It may be the future, but not the present. Not until it loses some volatility. We don't buy stuff in bitcoins, or even when we can, the price is based on the current dollar equivalent. That's why having money there in the wallet for a while can good or bad.

hmmm,

Maybe he read your post regarding only using Payza


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Admin edited message on 2016/02/17 at 08:51 This is just to announce a reduction in NETELLER's withdrawal fees. Starting now all withdrawals through NETELLER will have a fixed 2% fee with a minimum $1 fee. For example: $10 Before: $1.29 fee Now: $1.00 Fee $50 Before: $2.45 fee Now $1.00 fee $75 Before: $3.18 fee Now: $1.50 fee

Yes, that was funny.

But it still can't hold a candle to under 0.1% fee  :D

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Another great thing for this month: Starting now advertisers can benefit from a discounted pricing in most of the click based advertising packs. Fixed exposures are not included in this price reduction. The prices are final and not a temporary promotion. Besides the lower prices all packs will still benefit from the free AdPrize exposures each exposure offers you. We understand how important the free AdPrize exposures are for your campaigns due to the high conversion rate of repeated exposures but, and answering something that's asked a lot to our support, we won't sell AdPrize exposures separately. AdPrize exposures were designed to be free and including a cost to something that's free doesn't sound right in any way. Good luck with your advertising campaigns!

Looks like Neo is running a good promo (for anyone that is in that is)..!


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We've got an express promotion for you: Renewal discount on referrals for all memberships: 30 days: 8% 60 days: 13% 90 days: 20% 150 days: 27% 240 days: 32% This promotion will end on July 12th at 20:00 (server's time).

Thread:
https://www.neobux.com/forum/?frmid=3&tpcid=576777&vl=A576E2D4C130C24B2E487EEC140545E9

1 week ahead of the expected schedule.
I had enough in my balance to extend 2950RR, so now I won't need to renew anything until Halloween, where the next promo is expected to take place.  ;D

See my friends, that's how you manage Neobux accounts for maximum profit.

ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Jul, 2016 at 1:10pm:

1 week ahead of the expected schedule. I had enough in my balance to extend 2950RR, so now I won't need to renew anything until Halloween, where the next promo is expected to take place.  ;D See my friends, that's how you manage Neobux accounts for maximum profit.

do you have any DRs rui?

and congrats on the euro win!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Jul, 2016 at 8:36pm:

do you have any DRs rui?

Less than ten right now. Never had that many more since some stop clicking and get deleted after 60 days.

Are you aware that you could extend rented referrals with points? Have you tried it?

dansbanners wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 6:50pm:

Are you aware that you could extend rented referrals with points? Have you tried it?

Yes, I've done it but only keeping ones alive that were about to expire because I didn't have that many points. I usually use points to recycle. It is like a nice free bonus

One thing I've realized there is that if you can maximize your extensions, the chances of getting a really good RR with a high click average goes up. it is almost inevitable. They will recycle until a really good one comes along

dansbanners wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 6:50pm:

Are you aware that you could extend rented referrals with points? Have you tried it?

It's more cost effctive to use points for golden membership. The $/point ratios is much better there.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 11:07pm:

It's more cost effctive to use points for golden membership. The $/point ratios is much better there.

But it would involve a lot of clicking in order to get the number of points needed for the upgrade. Unless I'm missing something there?

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 11:07pm:

It's more cost effctive to use points for golden membership. The $/point ratios is much better there.

should be able to cover that by the time I'm 92

;D

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Sep, 2016 at 12:48am:

should be able to cover that by the time I'm 92 ;D

Only two more years to go right? ;)

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Sep, 2016 at 12:30am:

But it would involve a lot of clicking in order to get the number of points needed for the upgrade. Unless I'm missing something there?

Yes, it involves more clicking. But so what? It's not like i'm there short term. I already used points for golden upgrade once and i'm not too far offf from the second.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Sep, 2016 at 11:07pm:

It's more cost effctive to use points for golden membership. The $/point ratios is much better there.

Ok, once I use points for the golden membership. Then what? In what way would the $/point ratio be better there? Thanks.

Golden Memberships costs $90 or 30000 Neopoints. This means each point is worth $0.003.

When renewing or recylcing using points, 1333 Neopoints are equivalent to $1. So each point is worth $0.00075.

As you can see, the difference is huuuuge. Even if we consider we are able to get Golden membership at $75 during promos, this means, that each point used for upgrade is still worth $0.0025. That's still over 3 times as much as using them for recycling.
It's easy to see where I get better worth for my points.

The neo seasonal promos have started

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=10-band.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

I think we need a Christmas smiley here

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Dec, 2016 at 7:04pm:

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=10-band.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] I think we need a Christmas smiley here

oh definitely

10 years

http://image.prntscr.com/image/47419c70cb6c432f9e0617fc263c7eab.png

[smiley=12-party.gif]

https://image.prntscr.com/image/V0durjqWR2CQNqYskq4rNw.png

:)

Things have been really tough for me at Neobux lately.
Over a week ago my averages suddenly dropped to 0.43 (way below my BEP), putting me in a heavy net loss everyday.
And I can't even write on the forum, since all I get is an eternal loading screen when the frame where I would write my post shows up. I've tried different computers, OSs, and nothing works.  :(

ruicarlov wrote on 18^th Oct, 2017 at 4:23pm:

Things have been really tough for me at Neobux lately. Over a week ago my averages suddenly dropped to 0.43 (way below my BEP), putting me in a heavy net loss everyday. And I can't even write on the forum, since all I get is an eternal loading screen when the frame where I would write my post shows up. I've tried different computers, OSs, and nothing works.  :(

I don't know what to say. I've never had any success with rented referrals there

ruicarlov wrote on 18^th Oct, 2017 at 4:23pm:

Things have been really tough for me at Neobux lately. Over a week ago my averages suddenly dropped to 0.43 (way below my BEP), putting me in a heavy net loss everyday. And I can't even write on the forum, since all I get is an eternal loading screen when the frame where I would write my post shows up. I've tried different computers, OSs, and nothing works.  :(

Sorry to hear that Rui..   :(

Eternal loading screen? Seems like something is failing with an error..

Try entering a private session using "Ctrl + Shift + N" on a Chrome browser, then click "F12" and select "Console" to enable Javascript errors.

Then login, browse to the forum and reach the point where it hangs forever.

Copy anything coming up in "Console" and send it to me.

Maybe there's something there about the specific reason this is happening.

I don't suppose sending a support ticket would help in this case(regarding your BEP and not your loading problem)?

I sent one. Especially since the loading problem could be something with them. Not even on android I can acess it, so it's now a windows problem.

One of my direct referrals also had an average decresa to 0.4x, and he's also unable to post in the forum, getting the same error as I have.
Anyway, I'm sending that javascript info to you, Snake.

It looks like a sustainable number for direct referrals to rented is about 2 to 1 or higher. I have that now finally (on a small scale) and that is helping to maintain my rented referrals at a 150 day extension rate

Word of advice.
Get rid of RR as as soon as possible.
Neobux is going stealth scam.
Remember how I talked about my averages droping? For some months now they've been at 0.1. No forum acess, rules changed to have a maximum of $1000 per cashout, forcing people to put the rest of the money in the purchase balance.

Besides me and my mom, now an old ultimate pioneer member is now getting the same treatment as we did. They're axing out people like that.

Just a little feedback here as well: seems AdPrizes are getting saturated lately as having 20k available AdPrize credits seems to be running for more than 2 days already and still got 10k available so that's quite a slow delivery rate for a giant like Neobux.
Keep that in mind when going for the micro ads promising X+X Adprize credits.

Neobux has finally started accepting crypto for advertising. It only took them ten years. They move slower than I do.  ;D

As predicted, their ads have increased.