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Message started by dansbanners on 29th Jul, 2016 at 3:36pm

Title: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 29th Jul, 2016 at 3:36pm
Hi,

How can I upload and store images outside of my domain name? So if needed, I could post payment proofs in forums and so forth. Thanks!

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Jul, 2016 at 6:08pm

dansbanners wrote on 29th Jul, 2016 at 3:36pm:
Hi,

How can I upload and store images outside of my domain name? So if needed, I could post payment proofs in forums and so forth. Thanks!


I use my own domain but a public image hoster like http://imgur.com/ should do it. You need to sign up and everything else is straight forward.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 29th Jul, 2016 at 8:45pm

moneymarketing wrote on 29th Jul, 2016 at 6:08pm:
I use my own domain but a public image hoster like http://imgur.com/ should do it. You need to sign up and everything else is straight forward.

I've been using my domain all along. However, I'm toying with the idea not to renew it when it expires next week and am exploring different alternatives.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 30th Jul, 2016 at 2:53pm

moneymarketing wrote on 29th Jul, 2016 at 6:08pm:
I use my own domain but a public image hoster like http://imgur.com/ should do it. You need to sign up and everything else is straight forward.

That did the trick. Thanks! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Jul, 2016 at 5:03pm
Yep, I'm using imgur for all my images too!

Only issues I have faced is that sometimes the link fails to load correctly in the FamilyClix and YGP forum, though if opened in a new window it works fine.

Ever since imageshack turned to premium service, imgur has been the replacement for most people.

Just keep them organized through albums or eventually it will get really messy if everything is in one folder.

And you can also use privacy options as well, that they provide.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Jul, 2016 at 9:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 31st Jul, 2016 at 5:03pm:
Yep, I'm using imgur for all my images too!

Only issues I have faced is that sometimes the link fails to load correctly in the FamilyClix and YGP forum, though if opened in a new window it works fine.

Ever since imageshack turned to premium service, imgur has been the replacement for most people.

Just keep them organized through albums or eventually it will get really messy if everything is in one folder.

And you can also use privacy options as well, that they provide.


It might be wise to open an image hosting site because I assume eventually imgur will go premium also and then people will be scrambling for a new site. It could be worth the gamble  :money

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Jul, 2016 at 9:13pm
another site is http://postimg.org

this is the one MTV uses when requesting screenshots

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Aug, 2016 at 3:30am
Basically the cost for running an image hosting server of such an unlimited size and scale are crazy..

There must be an amazing source of income to hold such a site up, running and always expanding on disk space..

I think the reason for imgur to be able to pull through this is that it's mainly acting as a social network like Instagram..

People are not just hosting images there to post in forums and sites like us..

They are uploading them for others to view, and comment, and like, and reply with other pictures, ...and the circle goes on and on and brings advertising profits in.. :P

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 5th Aug, 2016 at 11:28pm

SolidSnake wrote on 31st Jul, 2016 at 5:03pm:
Yep, I'm using imgur for all my images too!

Only issues I have faced is that sometimes the link fails to load correctly in the FamilyClix and YGP forum, though if opened in a new window it works fine.

Is that something that can be used for a 468 x 60 banner in a banner ad or something?

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 6th Aug, 2016 at 3:10am

dansbanners wrote on 5th Aug, 2016 at 11:28pm:
Is that something that can be used for a 468 x 60 banner in a banner ad or something?

Yep, you can upload any kind of image and use the direct link regardless of its dimensions.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 7th Oct, 2016 at 5:10pm

moneymarketing wrote on 31st Jul, 2016 at 9:13pm:
another site is http://postimg.org

this is the one MTV uses when requesting screenshots

Do you have to open up an account with them in order to store graphics in there? Thanks.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Oct, 2016 at 6:30pm

dansbanners wrote on 7th Oct, 2016 at 5:10pm:
Do you have to open up an account with them in order to store graphics in there? Thanks.


I don't recall. Maybe just an email address or something

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 8th Oct, 2016 at 1:04am
No I think you don't.. :)

https://s13.postimg.org/glg19ww7b/test.png

Just adjust these settings, click "Choose Images" and you'll get the links to them..

This image above is my test.. I didn't sign up.. just screenshot-ed it and then uploaded it to them. ;)

However:


Quote:
Terms of Use

What cannot be uploaded to Postimage.org servers:

Copyrighted images if you don't own copyright for it
Violence, racial intolerance, or advocate against any individual, group, or organization
Any other images that might be considered illegal in USA or EU countries
If you are not sure whether image you want to upload is allowed then do not upload that image. All uploaded images are checked by staff and images that violate terms will be removed without warning and uploader of such images might be banned from website.

Images embedded into third-party websites or emails should be wrapped in links back to the corresponding HTML pages at our site. Embedding images without such a link is not allowed. The outgoing link should lead the user directly to our web page without any interstitial pages or interruptions.

Automatic/programmatic uploads are not allowed. If you need image storage for your app, please use Amazon S3 or Google Cloud Storage. Violators may be hunted down and banned.
So, I'm guessing that it doesn't match our needs..

If I'm getting this right, all images stored there should lead to their site.. so we can't use it for advertising banners or stuff..

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 8th Oct, 2016 at 6:14pm
Ok, that's good. Cause they seem to provide better looking web addresses in my opinion. Unless you do have control on what to name the image in Imgur?

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Oct, 2016 at 12:00pm
So, after noticing that imgur no longer support off-site image hosting (for use in a website), I've started looking for alternatives.

Some potentially good ones I have come across so far are the following:

1. https://ipfs.pics/
This one is interesting because it's open source and based on a Peer-to-peer design.. the good thing is that the images are stored on multiple servers so if one fails another one will deliver your image for displaying on your website which is a cool feature to have.

2. https://www.steemimg.com/
I can't find much on this apart from the fact that it belongs to https://steem.io/ which is actually an earning platform..

3. https://www.servimg.com
I read its T.o.S. and it doesn't say anything against website images hosting so that's usable, however it says that we can expect downtimes plus there is always a probability that they will eventually change their T.o.S. like imgur and imageshack... so I'm not that wiling to try them.

It seems this option is only available when you run a forum based on their script.. I've tried creating an account for them and had no luck..

I'm giving option #1 a shot.. to measure if it helps with page load speeds.
[edit]Already replaced forum's images and they seem to be loading lightning fast! :)[/edit]

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by dansbanners on 10th Oct, 2016 at 12:55pm
The images were loading fine from where I was. Good luck with ipfs anyway.

Title: Re: Uploading Images?
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Oct, 2016 at 7:39pm
I've just replaced PTCBox.Me Ads buttons and banners with images stored in ipfs and I'm kinda shocked by the loading difference. :)
It seems imgur was almost slowing me down..lol

But to make the post more review like, here are some things to note about ipfs.pics based on my experience with it:
[list bull-blackball]
  • It doesn't offer some kind of management for our links so it's simply an annonymous fire and forget system, and in case you do forget, you probably won't be able to find your images ever again..  ;D
  • There are no registrations, nor associations with an account of some sort (so you don't have to sign up to use it)
  • Also there are no privacy settings so that's not appropriate for private images storing (not my kind of use though).
  • There's no way of searching in images, apart from picking a random uploaded image.
  • The site does not automatically generate the direct image link in a copy-able field.
    You can fix it yourself from:
    https://ipfs.pics/QmV3JVY4PuN1un5UmapEuSS9fW1EUw1jbc9KLa4q6P577f
    to
    https://ipfs.pics/ipfs/QmV3JVY4PuN1un5UmapEuSS9fW1EUw1jbc9KLa4q6P577f
  • It also doesn't provide forum friendly links
  • It's fast, really really fast, so it will help with improving SEO, Google/Alexa ranking and advertising value when it loads within a PTC frame.
  • It supports uploading directly from a URL, so it was relatively easy for me to transfer my images directly from imgur to it.
  • It can't be used in cases where specific image extensions are only allowed (the url to ipfs images have no image extension).
    It's not a positive vs negative list because it depends on what one needs image hosting for.

  • Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by ruicarlov on 11th Oct, 2016 at 12:52pm
    Thanks for the review. I'll keep that in mind.

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 11th Oct, 2016 at 2:25pm

    ruicarlov wrote on 11th Oct, 2016 at 12:52pm:
    Thanks for the review. I'll keep that in mind.

    A downer is also that I can't use the ipfs.pics hosted images here in the forum using the img tag because it does require an extension.. :(

    I'm now also checking Steemimg.com for forums use..
    That one works with signing up though, so I tried to sign up but the confirmation email never reached my hotmail.com email..
    So, I've contacted them in order to change that (and keep my valuable "SolidSnake" username there as well)..

    I may come back with another review though.. :)

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 11th Oct, 2016 at 10:47pm
    I think I figured it out how to use imgur on our forum without getting the images blocked..

    We just need to make the image linkable to their site..

    I checked my FamilyClix payment proofs and they seem to work now which is cool cause I don't have to search and change anything..  [smiley=sad.gif]

    I still do have to update them all just don't have to host them elsewhere so it's almost ok.

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2016 at 1:09am
    Naa.. imgur is still not working properly.. I need to load the images on their domain before they are usable here again.. kind of a pain..

    But I've figured another fire and forget alternative that doesn't need registration (though it's supported) and works with forums.

    They promise to keep our hosted images until we get to delete them ourselves..

    https://imgsafe.org/

    It doesn't state any terms of service apart from "No illegal images. You will be reported to the authorities."

    I think that's ok! :)

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 19th Oct, 2016 at 6:18pm
    It seems ipfs.pics has given up on me too soon.. lol

    A few days after I started using it, it started pointing up an error that too many images have been uploaded the past hour so the servers need to cool down and I should come back later..

    Then some more days later the images stopped loading and I still can't upload any more to them..

    I wonder if there's some kind of conspiracy around this.. somebody watching over me and killing my access to the programs I decide to use after much researching.. lol

    Anyways, I've sticked to imgsafe that is more forum-friendly and the addresses are much shorter.
    Not sure for how long though.. that's up to YOU little man behind the monitors.. yes YOU!  >:( [smiley=lolx.gif]

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by moneymarketing on 19th Oct, 2016 at 7:07pm

    SolidSnake wrote on 19th Oct, 2016 at 6:18pm:
    It seems ipfs.pics has given up on me too soon.. lol

    A few days after I started using it, it started pointing up an error that too many images have been uploaded the past hour so the servers need to cool down and I should come back later..

    Then some more days later the images stopped loading and I still can't upload any more to them..

    I wonder if there's some kind of conspiracy around this.. somebody watching over me and killing my access to the programs I decide to use after much researching.. lol

    Anyways, I've sticked to imgsafe that is more forum-friendly and the addresses are much shorter.
    Not sure for how long though.. that's up to YOU little man behind the monitors.. yes YOU!  >:( [smiley=lolx.gif]


    if all these sites are quitting the image game there could be an opportunity there. How many people have started a site to serve the PTC industry and turned it into a legitimate business  :money 8-)


    Like how about a site that serves 10 images free and then the eleventh or 1 out of 20 or even 1 out of 50 serves a site banner and link in its place. Could you program for that?

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 20th Oct, 2016 at 3:50am
    The problem is that running an actual image hosting server has extreme costs (both setup and maintenance) which is why most of the free sites have changed their terms (imageshack, imgur..) and many others give up too..

    Generally any type of file sharing server has extreme costs plus there are many legal issues regarding copyrights where things can go very wrong.. which I guess is why not many people decide to follow that path..

    Title: Re: Uploading Images?
    Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Sep, 2017 at 3:04pm
    I've just stumbled upon another interesting Image Hosting site:

    http://imgbb.com/

    (it is the one rotate4all is using to host their promotional banners)

    The most interesting part of it is that they offer scripts to embed the image uploading process in other websites, so I'll give it a try with some of my clients' sites and my own as well.

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