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Message started by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 10:21am

Title: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 10:21am
So.. it was about time for a new thread specifically for this one.. since I think now it will kind of explode in volume after today's announcement:

FamilyBTC Forum Announcement

Looks like FamilyBTC has the potential to becoming an even bigger player than FamilyClix.

According to what the admin says, the shares investments will be invested in bitcoin mining hardware, which is a good way to achieve a ROI within a reasonable time frame, and then make pure profit out of them.

In my opinion, it's now a good time to join and promote the site, so I'll probably do that today..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 4:11pm
So, I've joined up through a PTSU in FamilyClix under member: kubilay35
Lucky guy and he doesn't know it yet..  ;)

Here is the upgrade table in FamilyBTC:


And the shares table is similar to the one in FamilyClix:


And here is their advertising table:


It's all in BTC so IMO the easiest way to think about them is to simply keep in mind that 0.001 BTC is ~$5.
I'll add it to the downline builder as well.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 6:46pm
So, I got my first 14 shares or miners as they like to call them that way.

The limit is 100 so I'll probably reach that and then decide my next move.

The upgraded membership costs $5 and is only available  on a monthly basis.. it's not bad though considering it's $60 per year.

Nothing is stated about deposit bonuses, so I'll most likely use my earnings to compound the shares growth.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Oct, 2017 at 7:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 12th Oct, 2017 at 6:46pm:
So, I got my first 14 shares or miners as they like to call them that way.

The limit is 100 so I'll probably reach that and then decide my next move.

The upgraded membership costs $5 and is only available  on a monthly basis.. it's not bad though considering it's $60 per year.

Nothing is stated about deposit bonuses, so I'll most likely use my earnings to compound the shares growth.


So you think it is a good risk?

Do you guys want to do this?

It's probably a great way to build bitcoin which just passed

$5000 
 :o :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 7:56pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Oct, 2017 at 7:43pm:
So you think it is a good risk?

Do you guys want to do this?

It all depends on BTC stability.. if it goes up we will earn a lot.. if it goes down we will lose.. probably a lot. :)
Hitting 5000+ feels intriguing enough for me.. so in case it decides to keep climbing it will prove to be very profitable.

Besides if I don't cashout in order to convert my balance to USD, I will keep progressing on the site regardless the USD value.
So, even if the price drops a bunch I will still make it back through compounding one day (provided that the site is alive by then).

I have also started a bunch of banner campaigns in order to get a small boost from direct referrals.
Since it's still relatively new the competition shouldn't be that tough.. or at least that's what I hope. ;D

To make it more interesting I've split all my banner campaigns in half based on their 2 banners.
This way I'll soon know which one of the two attracts the most clicks.

To be precise I assigned 100000 impressions on each of these sites: BoB, TrafficG, FC and 20 PPC credits on YGP.
Half for each of the two banners FamilyBTC provides, so once these are over I'll let you know which banner attracts more clicks on each site. :)

I'll probably advertise my ref link also on PV, maybe even the PV forum.

[edit]I forgot to mention that I'll still use the PTC credits for R4A so that's also a little bonus directly in USD..  :money[/edit]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Oct, 2017 at 8:13pm

SolidSnake wrote on 12th Oct, 2017 at 7:56pm:
It all depends on BTC stability.. if it goes up we will earn a lot.. if it goes down we will lose.. probably a lot. :)
Hitting 5000+ feels intriguing enough for me.. so in case it decides to keep climbing it will prove to be very profitable.

Besides if I don't cashout in order to convert my balance to USD, I will keep progressing on the site regardless the USD value.
So, even if the price drops a bunch I will still make it back through compounding one day (provided that the site is alive by then).

I have also started a bunch of banner campaigns in order to get a small boost from direct referrals.
Since it's still relatively new the competition shouldn't be that tough.. or at least that's what I hope. ;D

To make it more interesting I've split all my banner campaigns in half based on their 2 banners.
This way I'll soon know which one of the two attracts the most clicks.

To be precise I assigned 100000 impressions on each of these sites: BoB, TrafficG, FC and 20 PPC credits on YGP.
Half for each of the two banners FamilyBTC provides, so once these are over I'll let you know which banner attracts more clicks on each site. :)

I'll probably advertise my ref link also on PV, maybe even the PV forum.

[edit]I forgot to mention that I'll still use the PTC credits for R4A so that's also a little bonus directly in USD..  :money[/edit]


If you start small the BTC risk is negligible. I still think BTC is going to 50K now that the banks and governments are starting to talk about the positive potential of it so the future price being lower is immaterial for me

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Oct, 2017 at 11:30pm
Something else I've noticed on FamilyBTC is that all their ads are forced focus.. which will not be nice if they apply their 70 clicks during the last week rule...

At least in FC I can do it while doing anything else..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Oct, 2017 at 8:56am
I just bought 15 shares so you may want to check up on that  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Oct, 2017 at 9:39am

moneymarketing wrote on 13th Oct, 2017 at 8:56am:
I just bought 15 shares so you may want to check up on that  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yep, I noticed thanks! :)

Well, in case you decide to deposit again in the future, let me know beforehand so that I upgrade my account first..

It's 10% commission compared to 5% as standard.. so it would have also paid for my upgrade as well..  ;D

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Oct, 2017 at 5:35pm

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Oct, 2017 at 9:39am:
Yep, I noticed thanks! :)

Well, in case you decide to deposit again in the future, let me know beforehand so that I upgrade my account first..

It's 10% commission compared to 5% as standard.. so it would have also paid for my upgrade as well..  ;D



Whoops. I forgot about that. I wanted to get in quick though with bitcoin going crazy. I probably will deposit more in the near future so I'll let you know.

Also, I'll be compounding my shares ASAP so you might want to upgrade just for that

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Oct, 2017 at 9:50pm
So, here's my first day of share revenues on FamilyBTC:



So this means that the shares mature after 120 days (1% each until 120%)


moneymarketing wrote on 13th Oct, 2017 at 5:35pm:
Also, I'll be compounding my shares ASAP so you might want to upgrade just for that
I think it doesn't play a part if you just transfer funds from your account balance to your purchase balance, just like in other PTCs.

Commissions are granted for referral deposits only.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2017 at 1:38am

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Oct, 2017 at 9:50pm:
So, here's my first day of share revenues on FamilyBTC:



So this means that the shares mature after 120 days (1% each until 120%)

I think it doesn't play a part if you just transfer funds from your account balance to your purchase balance, just like in other PTCs.

Commissions are granted for referral deposits only.


So it is similar to the FC bonus then



Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2017 at 6:05pm
There is a lot to like about this site. The upgrades are cheap and simple. The shares are cheap and since we don't have to worry about the conversion back to US$ it should be easier to get a payout

The difficult part might be if the price of BTC rises significantly (like that 50K I have been targeting  ;D ) will he adjust the price downward for shares and upgrades?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Oct, 2017 at 7:11pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Oct, 2017 at 6:05pm:
There is a lot to like about this site. The upgrades are cheap and simple. The shares are cheap and since we don't have to worry about the conversion back to US$ it should be easier to get a payout

The difficult part might be if the price of BTC rises significantly (like that 50K I have been targeting  ;D ) will he adjust the price downward for shares and upgrades?

Generally it would be interesting to see how they will react in a big fluctuation (up or down) in the price of BTC.
If he keeps the same prices, it will be great IMO, but let's just wait and see.

Btw, I got my first share with my earnings today! :)

Current standing: Standard with 15 miners and 4 DRs (including MM)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2017 at 7:44pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Oct, 2017 at 7:11pm:
Generally it would be interesting to see how they will react in a big fluctuation (up or down) in the price of BTC.
If he keeps the same prices, it will be great IMO, but let's just wait and see.

Btw, I got my first share with my earnings today! :)

Current standing: Standard with 15 miners and 4 DRs (including MM)


The fluctuations should not be a problem since the network is all bitcoin (this is the same reason MTV wants to move their BTC casino to all BTC with no US$ involved). Assuming he is keeping all his payments in BTC, then, even though the value moves up and down, he is still paying out .001 or .0001 BTC or whatever. What really kills is the move from cash to BTC

A side benefit is if he is using BTC to pay for miners that have a US$ value. He can convert the BTC at the time of purchase with BTC that have potentially gone up in value over that time. So there are a few gains he can find in the system that should benefit him greatly

I guess it is the difference between being on the surface of the water and underwater in the ocean during a hurricane. The fish don't notice it as much while the birds do  :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Oct, 2017 at 9:31pm
I also like that this is a set it and forget it type site. I don't need to go there every day and click to earn. The shares will still make their money

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Oct, 2017 at 6:24pm
Thanks Vencat. I think you'll like this a lot  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Oct, 2017 at 6:09pm
Hey SS,

I think these guys have earned our trust so I'm going to jump in with about $400 in BTC. I need the site to start generating BTC so I can buy more shares for the ad credits. I'll use those for the rotator so there will be lots of nice synergy there.

Plus earning a ROI on BTC and getting more BTC  :money :D

The risk/reward on this is really good

So if you want to upgrade before I jump in then you better get moving  :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Oct, 2017 at 12:35am

moneymarketing wrote on 19th Oct, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Hey SS,

I think these guys have earned our trust so I'm going to jump in with about $400 in BTC. I need the site to start generating BTC so I can buy more shares for the ad credits. I'll use those for the rotator so there will be lots of nice synergy there.

Plus earning a ROI on BTC and getting more BTC  :money :D

The risk/reward on this is really good

So if you want to upgrade before I jump in then you better get moving  :)

Alright, just when my earnings reached $0.001 again.. so the upgrade required no extra money (I am upgraded now).

Btw, I ran a campaign at bestptcad.com (a rotator style advertising site from the guy that owns top-10ptc) and it went kinda horrible.
It's running on Neobux top ads, for almost 24h (@$7) but still got me no referral at all..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Oct, 2017 at 7:08am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Oct, 2017 at 12:35am:
Alright, just when my earnings reached $0.001 again.. so the upgrade required no extra money (I am upgraded now).

Btw, I ran a campaign at bestptcad.com (a rotator style advertising site from the guy that owns top-10ptc) and it went kinda horrible.
It's running on Neobux top ads, for almost 24h (@$7) but still got me no referral at all..


and it only needs to be for a month so that is good

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Oct, 2017 at 8:47am
I put in .08 BTC (good for 80 shares  [smiley=12-party.gif]) so you can check if you were paid

:money

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Oct, 2017 at 10:21am

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Oct, 2017 at 8:47am:
I put in .08 BTC (good for 80 shares  [smiley=12-party.gif]) so you can check if you were paid

:money
Yeap, it was also good for 8 shares for me as well..  :money

Thanks a lot!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Oct, 2017 at 6:54pm

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Oct, 2017 at 10:21am:
Yeap, it was also good for 8 shares for me as well..  :money

Thanks a lot!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Glad it's going to someone I know. Teamwork!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Oct, 2017 at 7:46pm
Awesome timing!

Zimbabwe Panic Sends Bitcoin Soaring Over $6000 - Now Bigger Than Goldman Sachs

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-20/zimbabwe-panic-sends-bitcoin-soaring-over-6000-now-bigger-goldman-sachs

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Oct, 2017 at 8:06am
I just upgraded with in house profits since I maxed out my shares.

Now I only have 4900 shares to go to max those out  :o

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Oct, 2017 at 1:57am

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Oct, 2017 at 8:06am:
I just upgraded with in house profits since I maxed out my shares.

Now I only have 4900 shares to go to max those out  :o

Nice! :)

I'm sitting at 30 for now but I'm slowly building them up.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Nov, 2017 at 8:09pm
So, today I got to 60 shares/mining packs on FBTC!  :money

I've decided to keep my account upgraded at all times since the cost is just 1 share that I now get in less than 2 days.

Let's hope they'll keep the "Current Grow %" stable here.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Nov, 2017 at 8:44pm

SolidSnake wrote on 28th Nov, 2017 at 8:09pm:
So, today I got to 60 shares/mining packs on FBTC!  :money

I've decided to keep my account upgraded at all times since the cost is just 1 share that I now get in less than 2 days.

Let's hope they'll keep the "Current Grow %" stable here.



BTC is in a virtuous circle so that shouldn't be a problem for them. The only risk I see is them lying about the miners. Everything else is positive and they should already have huge gains because of the BTC price movement since they started

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Dec, 2017 at 6:18pm
300 shares!  8-)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Dec, 2017 at 2:35pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Dec, 2017 at 6:18pm:
300 shares!  8-)

Way to go!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I'm climbing slowly but steadily towards 100, currently at 72 getting 2 shares every 3 days. :)

I have some BTC funds on standby for a possible promo just in case..

Let's see. :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Dec, 2017 at 10:33am
I moved the posts regarding FamilyClix shares growth to its dedicated thread to prevent confusion between the two. :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Dec, 2017 at 12:38pm
Not sure if you noticed this..:


Quote:
Hello guys.

Great news! We have added litecoin as deposit method.


Quote:
In add funds page when you want to deposit, write amount in BITCOIN that you want to deposit, system will automatically convert that amount into litecoin and you will be able to deposit using your litecoin wallet. When transaction is completed your will get money converted to bitcoin in your purchase balance.

And that's not all. For all deposit through bitcoin or litecoin you will get 10% bonus. This promo is valid until end of this year :) All bonuses will be assigned manually within 24 hours of your deposit.

More altcoins coming soon, probably in January!

All the best,
Maria and Juan

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Dec, 2017 at 6:10pm

SolidSnake wrote on 21st Dec, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Not sure if you noticed this..:




Yes, but what about withdrawal? My YGP withdrawal from the 11th still hasn't cleared. How do we get our money out?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 12:48am

moneymarketing wrote on 21st Dec, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Yes, but what about withdrawal? My YGP withdrawal from the 11th still hasn't cleared. How do we get our money out?

You mention YGP.. in the FBTC thread.. YGP pays within 24 hours so far, so I guess you meant FBTC.. :P

I still haven't withdrawn anything from FBTC yet, so I have no clue.

My plan is to reach 100 shares first, and then start a withdrawal strategy..

Maybe get half my initial amount out and compound the rest.

But it would be interesting to know how long withdrawals take there.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 7:06am

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 12:48am:
You mention YGP.. in the FBTC thread.. YGP pays within 24 hours so far, so I guess you meant FBTC.. :P

I still haven't withdrawn anything from FBTC yet, so I have no clue.

My plan is to reach 100 shares first, and then start a withdrawal strategy..

Maybe get half my initial amount out and compound the rest.

But it would be interesting to know how long withdrawals take there.


No, I meant YGP. Yes, they pay within 24hours but because they attached no fee to the payment it hasn't cleared yet. It was sent by them on the 11th and it is still pending. I think the same thing is going to happen with the others too. I just requested a withdrawal of LTC from FC and they sent it but there was no fee withdrawn so that money could be lost.

And if these people think they will be supported if they pull tricks like this then they are wrong

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 7:45am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 7:06am:
No, I meant YGP. Yes, they pay within 24hours but because they attached no fee to the payment it hasn't cleared yet. It was sent by them on the 11th and it is still pending. I think the same thing is going to happen with the others too. I just requested a withdrawal of LTC from FC and they sent it but there was no fee withdrawn so that money could be lost.

And if these people think they will be supported if they pull tricks like this then they are wrong


Count me corrected on the LTC. I received them within hours with zero fees paid.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 5:57pm
So I've dropped down to (that should be) .60% after my cashout. I wonder if it has to do with cashout rates and thresholds

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Dec, 2017 at 11:08pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Dec, 2017 at 5:57pm:
So I've dropped down to (that should be) .60% after my cashout. I wonder if it has to do with cashout rates and thresholds


.48% now  :dontknow

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Dec, 2017 at 9:23pm
They lowered the price for upgrades to 0.0005 BTC

Nice bonus. I was wondering how they were going to handle this as the price rose. I'm paid up until March now  :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jan, 2018 at 1:01am

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Dec, 2017 at 6:18pm:
300 shares!  8-)


400!

That is the power of compound growth!  :o

Combine that with the price of BTC growing and this is becoming extremely lucrative  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Now I just have to figure out how to get paid without them shutting off the tap  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 6th Jan, 2018 at 2:29am

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Jan, 2018 at 1:01am:
400!

That is the power of compound growth!  :o

Combine that with the price of BTC growing and this is becoming extremely lucrative  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Now I just have to figure out how to get paid without them shutting off the tap  [smiley=lolx.gif]

I hadn't noticed the BTC price is climbing again.. :)

It had dropped down to ~14000 and was stuck there for a couple of days so I stopped checking it all the time.
It helped cause I was getting psychotic with it..  ;D
It's definitely a good thing that it's climbing though..

I'm standing at 94 packs right now so I need just 6 more to hit my first milestone.
I'll then try to cashout some BTC for the first time.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jan, 2018 at 2:41am

SolidSnake wrote on 6th Jan, 2018 at 2:29am:
I hadn't noticed the BTC price is climbing again.. :)

It had dropped down to ~14000 and was stuck there for a couple of days so I stopped checking it all the time.
It helped cause I was getting psychotic with it..  ;D
It's definitely a good thing that it's climbing though..

I'm standing at 94 packs right now so I need just 6 more to hit my first milestone.
I'll then try to cashout some BTC for the first time.


There is a term for that in investing. It is called climbing the wall of worry. It is what all investors go through in a bull market.

Welcome to the world of investing.  ;D

This is why I say that when you begin to invest/trade the most important lesson you will learn is about yourself. If you want a good mirror into the two monsters in your heart, fear and greed, then do some investing. Be careful, looking into the mirror, you might not like what you see but it will make you stronger and a better person when you learn your weaknesses. That I promise  8-)

And you noticed the prices do better things when you don't look at them. It works that way. At least from a psychological perspective. The less you check them usually the better you do

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jan, 2018 at 12:13am
So all the altcoins they take deposits on you can now also withdraw on. This is great! No more ridiculous BTC fees! The crew at bitcoin better get their fee house in order before they are bypassed in the payments arena

:money :cool1 [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Jan, 2018 at 2:22am
And.. I'm finally at 100 shares!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

So, I think I have exactly 30 days without any shares expiring.. maybe I will get a nice withdrawal  now.. :)

Are you saying that I can actually withdraw to another crypto-currency directly? That's cool!

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jan, 2018 at 3:20am

SolidSnake wrote on 11th Jan, 2018 at 2:22am:
And.. I'm finally at 100 shares!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

So, I think I have exactly 30 days without any shares expiring.. maybe I will get a nice withdrawal  now.. :)

Are you saying that I can actually withdraw to another crypto-currency directly? That's cool!


I made it to the send page but I haven't deposited by any other method so I don't know what it will say if you click send with no deposit on your chosen alt coin

Here is the announcement but read through because there are unanswered questions about conversions.

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1041

.....and some guy put 14 BTC in the site?  :o

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jan, 2018 at 10:57am

Quote:
If u have reached cashout, do not be afraid to click withdraw,
System will provide you accurate conversion ratio for ETH
it will not be withdrawn if you will NOT click SEND
Just for you to know the accurate amount that you will receive.


http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1032

:)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Jan, 2018 at 12:50pm

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Jan, 2018 at 3:20am:
I made it to the send page but I haven't deposited by any other method so I don't know what it will say if you click send with no deposit on your chosen alt coin

Here is the announcement but read through because there are unanswered questions about conversions.

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1041

.....and some guy put 14 BTC in the site?  :o

Maybe he meant 14 packs?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jan, 2018 at 8:16pm

SolidSnake wrote on 11th Jan, 2018 at 12:50pm:
Maybe he meant 14 packs?


It does say packs but I thought it said BTC. But 14 packs does not = 500,000 in his account. Of course, 14 times 20,000, or BTC at its peak, is only 280000 so the truth is probably lacking in that post

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Jan, 2018 at 8:42pm
So  I sent in a ticket suggesting that they might be wise showing proof of work regarding their mining rigs as a way to increase the confidence of the site investors. This was the result

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1202

:)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jan, 2018 at 1:59am

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Jan, 2018 at 8:42pm:
So  I sent in a ticket suggesting that they might be wise showing proof of work regarding their mining rigs as a way to increase the confidence of the site investors. This was the result

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1202

:)


I see they are also doing this at family clix. I assume it will be the same pool. The only downside I see to this is that until the pool grows big enough, we will not be able to compound our shares daily. So the old share system would have grown faster. So this is a small gotcha

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Jan, 2018 at 9:57am

Quote:
Crowdfunding feature will be ready in 10-15 days. When it is ready it will replace classic revenue share model.

I hate when admins do that.. announcements like that make me lose all trust in them.

Why replace something that works, with something that has not been tested yet..?
Why not launch it as an additional project?

Thankfully I stopped reinvesting a few days ago and started accumulating funds in my account balance for a withdrawal.

I just hope they will not change their rules, so that I won't succeed...

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Jan, 2018 at 1:35pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Jan, 2018 at 8:42pm:
So  I sent in a ticket suggesting that they might be wise showing proof of work regarding their mining rigs as a way to increase the confidence of the site investors. This was the result

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1202

:)
Not sure if that is a valid reply to what we asked for..

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1202&orderby=date&sortby=ASC&p=2#postid1247

:dontknow

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Jan, 2018 at 9:48am

SolidSnake wrote on 19th Jan, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Not sure if that is a valid reply to what we asked for..

http://www.familybtc.com/forum.php?topic=1202&orderby=date&sortby=ASC&p=2#postid1247

:dontknow


Yes, agreed.

This is encouraging


Quote:
    Quote: moneymarketing
    Yes, this is a project I will join in.

    So once we have the first miner paid for, then funding will immediately open for the second? I think this would be a good idea so as to let us compound our money faster

    My other question is about the funds pooling. You are also offering this to the sister site FamilyBTC. So are the funds from both sites going to be pooled into the same project to let us buy the miners quicker?



Yes, after first miner, funding for another one will be open immediately or there will be just 24-48 hours between each, so we will have time to set miners.

Familyclix and Familybtc pool will be separated, but I'm sure we will collect money fast, both sites have big base of investors and as i can see people are more than interested to earn unlimited finally :)


Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Jan, 2018 at 11:09pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Jan, 2018 at 9:48am:
Yes, agreed.

This is encouraging

Thanks for sharing!

That's finally some good news!

Keeping them separated is good for better managing of the project.

I would love to see it bringing fresh life to FamilyClix and FamilyBTC.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Jan, 2018 at 11:48pm
I've just noticed a weird issue with Mining Packs!

Quoting from my support ticket:


Quote:
I've just noticed that 14 of my mining packs got removed yesterday!

At exactly 11th Jan, 2018, I had reached my goal of 100 and had ~28 days before the first one to expire would reach at 120% ROI.
But all of a sudden my mining packs page today only shows 86 listed.

In my order history I found out that the first purchase shows:
Oct 12, 2017      14 Rev Shares      0.01400000 BTC

Counting the days since the purchase, yesterday these 14 Rev Shares, reached 100 days, and they are now missing from my mining packs list.
Gaining 1% daily they should reach 120% before expiring but they only received 100% until yesterday and got removed.

Check your mining pack lists and see if you notice something similar there.
It could be a bug.. :-/

You can use this day calculator to check how many days have passed since your purchase.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Jan, 2018 at 3:55am

SolidSnake wrote on 21st Jan, 2018 at 11:48pm:
I've just noticed a weird issue with Mining Packs!

Quoting from my support ticket:

Check your mining pack lists and see if you notice something similar there.
It could be a bug.. :-/

You can use this day calculator to check how many days have passed since your purchase.


Did you notice it in your total share numbers or did it only show up in your actual shares?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Jan, 2018 at 9:36am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Jan, 2018 at 3:55am:
Did you notice it in your total share numbers or did it only show up in your actual shares?

Both.. unlike FamilyClix where inactive shares still show up, these ones in FamilyBTC got removed completely from my list.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jan, 2018 at 3:09pm
Hmmm,
Both Family clix and family btc are down for everyone right now.

I'm speculating they are implementing the miner software into the sites but this is just a hopeful guess

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jan, 2018 at 3:56pm

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Jan, 2018 at 3:09pm:
Hmmm,
Both Family clix and family btc are down for everyone right now.

I'm speculating they are implementing the miner software into the sites but this is just a hopeful guess


No, false alarm

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Jan, 2018 at 11:01am

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Jan, 2018 at 9:36am:
Both.. unlike FamilyClix where inactive shares still show up, these ones in FamilyBTC got removed completely from my list.

So, to keep you up to date with my case they restored my shares but didn't get a reply with what exactly happened on my ticket.

Thankfully we're back on track, so it could be a misconfiguration..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Jan, 2018 at 4:48pm

SolidSnake wrote on 28th Jan, 2018 at 11:01am:
So, to keep you up to date with my case they restored my shares but didn't get a reply with what exactly happened on my ticket.

Thankfully we're back on track, so it could be a misconfiguration..


At least they fixed it without a hassle  :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Feb, 2018 at 2:21am
I'm trying to withdraw on FBTC.. but I can't find the standard Bitcoin option..  :-?



In my personal settings, I have correctly set my BTC address.. but where is the BTC option?

Any ideas?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Feb, 2018 at 12:35pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Feb, 2018 at 2:21am:
I'm trying to withdraw on FBTC.. but I can't find the standard Bitcoin option..  :-?



In my personal settings, I have correctly set my BTC address.. but where is the BTC option?

Any ideas?


[smiley=lolx.gif]

I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the irony of the thing. I guess he has pulled btc withdrawals due to volatility. So we have a btc site that won't let you withdraw btc  :D

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Feb, 2018 at 2:14pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Feb, 2018 at 12:35pm:
[smiley=lolx.gif]

I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the irony of the thing. I guess he has pulled btc withdrawals due to volatility. So we have a btc site that won't let you withdraw btc  :D

Yeap, it's kind of self-defeating..  ;D

I'm studying on how to set up my own litecoin wallet on a server of mine in order to be able to accept payments directly without third party middle men included.. I'll figure it out soon.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Feb, 2018 at 4:55pm
Also why is the Litecoin symbol included 2 times?  :-?

Both in the options in the image above and in our personal settings menu..

There is both LTC and Litecoin..

Aren't they supposed to be the same thing?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Feb, 2018 at 5:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Feb, 2018 at 4:55pm:
Also why is the Litecoin symbol included 2 times?  :-?

Both in the options in the image above and in our personal settings menu..

There is both LTC and Litecoin..

Aren't they supposed to be the same thing?


I don't know. I thought there might be a litecoin cash out there due to a fork or something but I can't find anything. You probably want to ask because that will obviously lead to confusion and we neven know anymore with that site

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Feb, 2018 at 4:17pm
So, I've requested my first payout to a Litecoin address.. Here are some things I've noticed:

Even though in the upgrade table it says we can withdraw unlimited and I am upgraded, there is a limit of 0.02 LTC daily. Thankfully that's just a bit less of what I wanted to withdraw.

In the "Personal Settings" page there is a field called "Litecoin" and one called "LTC". The first one does not seem to be working..

I tried to withdraw using "Litecoin" in the withdrawal page but the address I had set did not show up there.

However the "LTC" field works, using the LTC Coin image on the withdrawal page.

We'll now see how long it will take till they send me the payment..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Feb, 2018 at 5:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th Feb, 2018 at 4:17pm:
So, I've requested my first payout to a Litecoin address.. Here are some things I've noticed:

Even though in the upgrade table it says we can withdraw unlimited and I am upgraded, there is a limit of 0.02 LTC daily. Thankfully that's just a bit less of what I wanted to withdraw.

In the "Personal Settings" page there is a field called "Litecoin" and one called "LTC". The first one does not seem to be working..

I tried to withdraw using "Litecoin" in the withdrawal page but the address I had set did not show up there.

However the "LTC" field works, using the LTC Coin image on the withdrawal page.

We'll now see how long it will take till they send me the payment..


Shouldn't take long. It has been one to a couple days whenever I requested. And the best part is no fees  :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Feb, 2018 at 6:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Feb, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Shouldn't take long. It has been one to a couple days whenever I requested. And the best part is no fees  :)


:beatup

D'oh! Did it again. I was thinking familyclix for the ltc withdraw. I've only withdrawn eth from FC. I don't think there will be much of a difference in the withdraw times though

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Feb, 2018 at 11:02am
So, it's been 11 days since I've requested a cashout and still haven't received anything..

Apart from that, something else that bugged me is the following:

A few days ago, I was going through the forum to see if anyone states anything about payment times or delays, and noticed some member asking this exact question. So, I added a reply there with a +1 and also requesting some more detailed information regarding LTC payments.. I asked if the coins price was based on the date of the request or the day of delivery.

And now after 2-3 days, I went to check the thread out and it seems that it has been deleted without notice.. Based on the PTC history deleting posts that ask regarding withdrawal times would be considered a red flag.

Let's see if we will get an update somehow..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Feb, 2018 at 5:50pm

SolidSnake wrote on 27th Feb, 2018 at 11:02am:
So, it's been 11 days since I've requested a cashout and still haven't received anything..

Apart from that, something else that bugged me is the following:

A few days ago, I was going through the forum to see if anyone states anything about payment times or delays, and noticed some member asking this exact question. So, I added a reply there with a +1 and also requesting some more detailed information regarding LTC payments.. I asked if the coins price was based on the date of the request or the day of delivery.

And now after 2-3 days, I went to check the thread out and it seems that it has been deleted without notice.. Based on the PTC history deleting posts that ask regarding withdrawal times would be considered a red flag.

Let's see if we will get an update somehow..


I could see if they deleted to keep from telling people they wait for a favorable window. Even Marc admitted as much when asked about it at MTV. I agree that the payment is a concern and there doesn't seem to be a lot of payouts at the site. Maybe they aren't generating a lot of income there. It doesn't help that they haven't adjusted the ad prices as the price of BTC has risen

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 28th Feb, 2018 at 6:46pm
They seem to fluctuate a bit when it comes to the payment. There were times I had a long wait, perhaps a little longer than usual to get paid. Only to then get paid again shortly afterwards. 

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Mar, 2018 at 12:13pm
So, I finally got paid by FBTC a few days ago, it was not the fastest but not the slowest either.

But it was an ok amount, and we now know that there is a withdrawal limit at least for LTC and it is 0.02 BTC, which is fair enough.

Only sad thing is that they still don't provide direct BTC withdrawals.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by ruicarlov on 2nd Mar, 2018 at 4:40pm
In Portugal we have a saying that goes:

In the house of the blacksmith there's a wooden skewer.

Fits this site to a T.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2018 at 7:35am
So they shut down their forum a couple days ago. I couldn't figure out why.

Today I go to buy shares and get this message


Quote:
Currently we have no shares for sale.


Seems things are adding up  ::)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 17th Apr, 2018 at 1:23pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Apr, 2018 at 7:35am:
So they shut down their forum a couple days ago. I couldn't figure out why.

Their forum is accessible in FC though.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2018 at 4:49pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Apr, 2018 at 1:23pm:
Their forum is accessible in FC though.


Yes, I know. This makes it all the more puzzling because it is not a forum problem.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Apr, 2018 at 12:35am
At least the withdrawal page still shows all options normally, including BTC.

I haven't tried using it though..

I attempted to ask about the issues here:
http://www.familyclix.com/forum.php?topic=63050

Let's see where this will lead us.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Apr, 2018 at 3:22pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Apr, 2018 at 12:35am:
At least the withdrawal page still shows all options normally, including BTC.

I haven't tried using it though..

I attempted to ask about the issues here:
http://www.familyclix.com/forum.php?topic=63050

Let's see where this will lead us.

And there are our news.. :)

Well, at least we get to keep whatever we earn from our shares. :)

I still have 99 of them, so there's still a lot to earn, I just won't be able to compound or keep them at that amount..

Pity but still, pretty profitable if I ever make it to cash them out.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2018 at 5:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Apr, 2018 at 3:22pm:
And there are our news.. :)

Well, at least we get to keep whatever we earn from our shares. :)

I still have 99 of them, so there's still a lot to earn, I just won't be able to compound or keep them at that amount..

Pity but still, pretty profitable if I ever make it to cash them out.


The downside is that the price of BTC has gone down in that time and we don't get paid in money but BTC. I don't see how they are going to make much money as a faucet. Is it really that profitable?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 18th Apr, 2018 at 6:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Apr, 2018 at 3:22pm:
I still have 99 of them, so there's still a lot to earn, I just won't be able to compound or keep them at that amount..

Pity but still, pretty profitable if I ever make it to cash them out.

You could also use it to purchase some advertising which is what I'm doing. And you could then promote R4A in there. Thus you'd still be getting some money indirectly if not directly.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Apr, 2018 at 12:42am

dansbanners wrote on 18th Apr, 2018 at 6:57pm:
You could also use it to purchase some advertising which is what I'm doing. And you could then promote R4A in there. Thus you'd still be getting some money indirectly if not directly.


The problem with that is that r4a only pays about $1 per 1000 clicks and 5000 credits costs $9 in BTC so you are throwing away $4 for every ad you run and you will probably get no referrals.

You may as well just send $4 to the r4a admin

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Apr, 2018 at 8:35am

moneymarketing wrote on 19th Apr, 2018 at 12:42am:
The problem with that is that r4a only pays about $1 per 1000 clicks and 5000 credits costs $9 in BTC so you are throwing away $4 for every ad you run and you will probably get no referrals.

You may as well just send $4 to the r4a admin


I think the only way I would do that is if there was no chance of getting paid by FBTC which is very possible

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Apr, 2018 at 2:06pm

moneymarketing wrote on 19th Apr, 2018 at 8:35am:
I think the only way I would do that is if there was no chance of getting paid by FBTC which is very possible
Yeap, R4A is the last resort, etc I use that for FamilyClix, and have also been using it all this time with free credits from mining packs.

As for our main balance, as long as we can get paid directly there's no reason for emergency measures.

Things are still healthy as they are.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 26th May, 2018 at 12:27am
So.. here's my current list of pending withdrawals..

I remember my first payment taking 20~30 days, so we'll see how these will go..

They seem to be paying every few days so, I'll just wait my turn and keep you up to date. :)




Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 26th May, 2018 at 4:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 26th May, 2018 at 12:27am:
So.. here's my current list of pending withdrawals..

I remember my first payment taking 20~30 days, so we'll see how these will go..

They seem to be paying every few days so, I'll just wait my turn and keep you up to date. :)



I have 3 pending and about .2 BTC that I could request but won't. I do buy banners at one million per shot to help them out a bit. They do get pretty good results. I do believe they will pay. They are just bogged down there. They are paying at FC faithfully and once their crowdsharing costs are paid those assets will start generating free cash flow which they can use to pay their other site off.

I'm also going to start reinvesting some of my crowdfunding profits once I break even on the first spend I made there. I'm more than half way so it should not be too long. In about 6 months, if they can keep things going, they should start to get out from under this debt. The crypto bear market is not helping

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 31st May, 2018 at 6:22pm

Quote:
New anti-cheat

Hello.



We have new anti-cheat system. We want all members to pass through it before cashout, so we refunded all pending withdrawals.

Just simply ask your payment again and we will pay fast.

For now on, you can withdraw only bitcoin.



All the best,

Familybtc


:dontknow

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Jun, 2018 at 1:43am
Yeap.. that's why they cancelled them..

So, I started new requests.. The first one got paid within hours. Next 3 are piled up.

But hey, I still got something, that's better than nothing.. ;)

I'm positive with the reset so let's see how this will go.. :)

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 6th Jul, 2018 at 5:46pm
So, there have been some progress on the FBTC payments, but it keeps on getting worse these days..

In the site's proofs of payments list, I see a lot of payments daily, but only to small amounts with very few exceptions..

I wonder if the FamilyBTC owner is ever gonna pay us at all..

Rule after rule they've been pushing us back and leave us no space to even state our problem.

Anyways, let's see how this will go.. here is my requests list as it stands now..:



:dontknow

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jul, 2018 at 10:02pm

SolidSnake wrote on 6th Jul, 2018 at 5:46pm:
So, there have been some progress on the FBTC payments, but it keeps on getting worse these days..

In the site's proofs of payments list, I see a lot of payments daily, but only to small amounts with very few exceptions..

I wonder if the FamilyBTC owner is ever gonna pay us at all..

Rule after rule they've been pushing us back and leave us no space to even state our problem.

Anyways, let's see how this will go.. here is my requests list as it stands now..:



:dontknow


I'm also seeing that FC is no longer paying their crowdfunding. I have almost $500 there pending  :-/

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 7th Jul, 2018 at 1:40pm
If necessary can you use the funds for advertising? I'm currently using the funds to promote R4A.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Jul, 2018 at 9:55pm

dansbanners wrote on 7th Jul, 2018 at 1:40pm:
If necessary can you use the funds for advertising? I'm currently using the funds to promote R4A.


You can't use crowdfunding money for anything on the site, only cashout. You can't even reinvest into crowdfunding without first cashing out

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 9th Jul, 2018 at 5:57pm
Operating on a "I hope to make money with the program someday" is a risk.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Jul, 2018 at 11:57pm

dansbanners wrote on 9th Jul, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Operating on a "I hope to make money with the program someday" is a risk.


And that is why the whole industry is doing so poorly. More and more people are understanding that these sites are long term scams and are walking away never to return.

I may be wasting my time by doing it this way but at least I'm not taking money from people by selling a false dream. If I don't make money long term then so be it. And to hell with those scammy owners

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Jul, 2018 at 7:37pm
The worst of all is their attitude..

They've used us as their own kickstarter.. then deviate from everything they've promised to the people that supported them.

No wonder why they get so much hate.. and all they do is just shut down the communication channels so they don't get bothered at all.

Whatever.. I'll just place my withdrawals and let it be.. if anything comes out of it it will be a pleasant surprise anyways.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Oct, 2018 at 1:59pm
So, after 4 more months without a payment, I asked them to cancel all my withdrawals in order to use the funds for advertising and thankfully they did.

This got me a balance of 0.05 BTC which is enough to grant me a bit more than a million of PTC credits..

I already have a campaign running for some while now delivering traffic to my R4A PTP link and that's ok.
But what would be profitable enough to do with that amount of PTC credits..? ;D
Running more campaigns for R4A would cause non-unique hits so it's gonna half their value..

Are there any other worthy PTP sites that could prove to be as (close as) profitable as R4A?

I know donkeymails has a PTP option but I checked and couldn't find FBTC in their accepted sites list.

So, do you guys know of another option that is able to pay to PayPal or BTC?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 14th Oct, 2018 at 2:19pm
My experience is that FamilyClix is the best program there is for R4A. Here's my last week stats:

Total Valid - 4,816

Total Invalid - 196

One thing you can do is to set a maximum number of daily clicks. This way you won't get too many hits all at once. I have it set to 1000 in FamilyClix.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2018 at 5:36pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Oct, 2018 at 1:59pm:
So, after 4 more months without a payment, I asked them to cancel all my withdrawals in order to use the funds for advertising and thankfully they did.

This got me a balance of 0.05 BTC which is enough to grant me a bit more than a million of PTC credits..

I already have a campaign running for some while now delivering traffic to my R4A PTP link and that's ok.
But what would be profitable enough to do with that amount of PTC credits..? ;D
Running more campaigns for R4A would cause non-unique hits so it's gonna half their value..

Are there any other worthy PTP sites that could prove to be as (close as) profitable as R4A?

I know donkeymails has a PTP option but I checked and couldn't find FBTC in their accepted sites list.

So, do you guys know of another option that is able to pay to PayPal or BTC?


[smiley=lolx.gif]

I just looked there after a while. They now owe me .406 bitcoin  >:( [smiley=sad.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2018 at 6:01pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Oct, 2018 at 5:36pm:
[smiley=lolx.gif]

I just looked there after a while. They now owe me .406 bitcoin  >:( [smiley=sad.gif]


BTW, I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at how much they owed me....then reality set in

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Oct, 2018 at 10:27pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Oct, 2018 at 6:01pm:
BTW, I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at how much they owed me....then reality set in

Don't worry I got it!  ;D

Btw, you can buy tons of advertising with that amount.. :)

EDIT: I'm also not laughing at you.. [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2018 at 11:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Oct, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Don't worry I got it!  ;D

Btw, you can buy tons of advertising with that amount.. :)

EDIT: I'm also not laughing at you.. [smiley=lolx.gif]


you never know on the internet these days how it comes across. And yes, I just bought 200K R4A clicks there but only set it for 500 per day so now I have 400 days worth of clicks there

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by ruicarlov on 15th Oct, 2018 at 12:06pm
I'm not limiting the views in other sites which are not paying, like familyclix. That's because the longer a site goes scam, the less traffic it delivers, so by dragging things too long I might risk not using up those credits at all. I've got $800 on familyclix and $300 on goldenclix, just to give you an idea.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Oct, 2018 at 12:31pm

ruicarlov wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 12:06pm:
I'm not limiting the views in other sites which are not paying, like familyclix. That's because the longer a site goes scam, the less traffic it delivers, so by dragging things too long I might risk not using up those credits at all. I've got $800 on familyclix and $300 on goldenclix, just to give you an idea.

That's in my mind too.. I also wouldn't limit the views.. since R4A doesn't use a country based tier system all unique traffic is good.

Sometimes I'm also wondering if I should run a second campaign for half the value as well just in case.. but well.. so far it performs well and FBTC still pays small valued withdrawals so people still haven't lost all trust in them.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 15th Oct, 2018 at 3:12pm

ruicarlov wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 12:06pm:
I'm not limiting the views in other sites which are not paying, like familyclix. That's because the longer a site goes scam, the less traffic it delivers, so by dragging things too long I might risk not using up those credits at all. I've got $800 on familyclix and $300 on goldenclix, just to give you an idea.

Yes. You have a point. What I also do sometime is to add more sites, particularly those I get to benefit from each click with anyway (i.e. PTP or referring page credits or impressions) to use up more credits more quickly.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Oct, 2018 at 6:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 12:31pm:
That's in my mind too.. I also wouldn't limit the views.. since R4A doesn't use a country based tier system all unique traffic is good.

Sometimes I'm also wondering if I should run a second campaign for half the value as well just in case.. but well.. so far it performs well and FBTC still pays small valued withdrawals so people still haven't lost all trust in them.


There is no way I'm cashing in $4000 on their mediocre traffic. I'd rather that be a dead weight on their conscience. And Yes, they do owe me that money!

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Oct, 2018 at 6:14pm
They supposedly bought work vehicles plus they have their "internet cafe". So they should have the cash flow to at least pay back some of the money they took. No breaks for them. Otherwise, they committed outright fraud. If so, they should be in jail

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Oct, 2018 at 10:07pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 6:09pm:
There is no way I'm cashing in $4000 on their mediocre traffic. I'd rather that be a dead weight on their conscience. And Yes, they do owe me that money!

Well.. you can just use 1/10th of that for now in R4A and have plenty of time to think about the rest. :)

Based on the current price of BTC 0,0045 (equals $28,78) and that is the FBTC price for 100000 PTC hits.
Now if you convert that to R4A traffic the earnings will be a bit below $25 so you just lose ~$4 for the conversion.

From there on some random calculations would go like this:

For every $100 in FBTC you can earn $86,10 converted to R4A.
For every $1000 in FBTC you can earn $861,01 converted to R4A.
So out of $4000 in FBTC you can earn $3444,06 converted to R4A.

Time however is a whole different matter..

At the current rate I receive ~1000 visits daily (unlimited - all countries) that generate ~$0.25 daily on R4A.
So it would take about a year to generate $91,25 in a perfectly stable world.. hmm.. I'll stop calculations here..  :-X  :beatup

Either way it makes more sense getting out of it whatever we can, while we still can.. than just let them have it all.
I'm sorry to say that you can't get it that all out soon with a single campaign, maybe not even with many..

But there's still some advertising value we can drag out of it and convert to cash elsewhere.
It sucks but at least they're still here.. and they may not be for too long so I think we can only plan based on what we have.  :dontknow

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Oct, 2018 at 10:10pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 6:14pm:
They supposedly bought work vehicles plus they have their "internet cafe". So they should have the cash flow to at least pay back some of the money they took. No breaks for them. Otherwise, they committed outright fraud. If so, they should be in jail

Yeap I agree with you there, but they were never really transparent at all about how they performed.. and they are not exactly open to conversation.. so if one can legally go against them maybe it's the thing to do.. I'm sure that won't be easy though..

Obviously they don't live by their promises..

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by dansbanners on 16th Oct, 2018 at 12:42am
Has anyone purchased PTP Rotator Credits in Family Clix? And how quickly were the credits used up?

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Oct, 2018 at 1:44am

dansbanners wrote on 16th Oct, 2018 at 12:42am:
Has anyone purchased PTP Rotator Credits in Family Clix? And how quickly were the credits used up?

If you we're talking about the PTP Ads, I tested it during July and was not that quick:


SolidSnake wrote on 14th Jul, 2018 at 1:41pm:
They're kind of slow but the price is good so whatever.. :)

3 days after activating my ad I've received ~430 views.

They removed my campaing that ended about a month ago so I can't exactly recall the details.

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Oct, 2018 at 8:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Oct, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Yeap I agree with you there, but they were never really transparent at all about how they performed.. and they are not exactly open to conversation.. so if one can legally go against them maybe it's the thing to do.. I'm sure that won't be easy though..

Obviously they don't live by their promises..



That's the problem. If you were to sue you would need to do it in their home country. So the cost to recoup your funds would be way more than funds lost. This is what these sites rely on. They don't take a lot of money. Just a little from many people. Their only risk is from people who live in their own country.

I hope blockchain can solve this in the future

Title: Re: FamilyBTC.com - A BTC oriented PTC-Revenue Sharing from the FamilyClix owners
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Jul, 2020 at 6:55am
This is toast.

Good riddence

I hope the money they stole turns black in their pockets

http://www.familybtc.com/

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