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Message started by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am

Title: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am
This is the first time I've seen this. The comp plan seems interesting. It will depend on the cost of the upgrade

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 5:22am
The upgrade price isn't too bad


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Feb, 2019 at 12:06am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am:
This is the first time I've seen this. The comp plan seems interesting. It will depend on the cost of the upgrade

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

According to Alexa it seems that it was popular during the third quarter of 2018 faced a drop towards its end, but has started climbing again in traffic recently..

Do you think it would be worth testing?

I could spare 7 bucks for a month, if that gets me a few referrals on R4A or PV.. :)

Do they accept Bitcoin?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Feb, 2019 at 6:27am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 12:06am:
According to Alexa it seems that it was popular during the third quarter of 2018 faced a drop towards its end, but has started climbing again in traffic recently..

Do you think it would be worth testing?

I could spare 7 bucks for a month, if that gets me a few referrals on R4A or PV.. :)

Do they accept Bitcoin?


Dan knows a guy in it so I figured we could both ask him about it and join under him. Since he is a net marketer, that also may draw him into our team.

Did you want to talk to him? I was going to and to tell him Dan sent me but if you want to jump in first I can go with that. It is probably your turn to be in the lead.

http://oldbuddy.info/grow/

My only caution would be if it takes paypal because that would show they have little grasp of our industry

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 6:27am:
Dan knows a guy in it so I figured we could both ask him about it and join under him. Since he is a net marketer, that also may draw him into our team.

Did you want to talk to him? I was going to and to tell him Dan sent me but if you want to jump in first I can go with that. It is probably your turn to be in the lead.

http://oldbuddy.info/grow/

My only caution would be if it takes paypal because that would show they have little grasp of our industry

Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


Quote:
My main questions regarding downlinefarm.com are:
1. What payment processors do they support?
2. Is there a measure for how much traffic they deliver to your links when upgraded to Gold membership? (etc. X visitors/per month)
3. Is it any good when it comes to promoting PTC or PTP sites?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Feb, 2019 at 6:53am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm:
Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


The size of the member base would also be interesting. Knowing if it has caught on with the community

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Feb, 2019 at 4:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm:
Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


anything yet?  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 9th Feb, 2019 at 12:00am

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Feb, 2019 at 4:53pm:
anything yet?  :-?

Nothing yet.. I'm checking my emails daily. :)

But well.. each one checks his emails at his own pace.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 9th Feb, 2019 at 8:54am
I just got the email and registered so I could answer.

In my opinion Downline Farm is not a big money maker, but it is a place to promote to get contacts and referrals for a few programs, especially AIOP which I use it for.

I get paid with PayPal and as I remember that's all they offer.

As Of February 6, 2019 = 2876 members.

I upgraded a few months ago and so far it has made a profit every month.

The best thing I like about it is the Admin, he is an honest guy that is trying to succeed just like most of us are, so I am glad to support him.

Since I am Gold, I added three programs of my own, but I don't bother adding links to most of the others. I am strong on AIOP so that helps.

What I would suggest is one of your group join free and look it over to see if it fits your agenda and then ask me any questions that pop up.

I set the option to email me if there are replies here and will try to answer any question you come up with.

Thanks for asking.

P.S. One reason I may have been delayed in answering was we just got back from a trip to Las Vegas and I had to travel light to get the best airfare.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:57pm
Also, how are the random referrals? Is it a large number or just a few

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 9th Feb, 2019 at 11:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm:
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

Well, the advertising side of it could prove to be useful.

It's not like it would become our main earner for now, but if it could provide a few referrals to other sites, plus some earnings to lower the membership cost, I would probably be interested. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 10th Feb, 2019 at 6:51am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm:
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

I'm not sure that is a problem, since they are primarily a downline builder with each dowline program using their own processors. I know I have used Fusioncash over a decade and they still use PayPal for most members.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 10th Feb, 2019 at 6:57am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Also, how are the random referrals? Is it a large number or just a few

It has been just a few for me, but I just upgraded. I do have 26 including my own.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Feb, 2019 at 8:00am
This is also on ygp's fixed ads so it is safe to assume it has their support. If that is the case, it should see good member growth

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Feb, 2019 at 5:08pm

oldbuddy wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 8:54am:
Since I am Gold, I added three programs of my own

Are those three programs on an external page also visible to others, to the non-members?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 11th Feb, 2019 at 3:07am

dansbanners wrote on 10th Feb, 2019 at 5:08pm:
Are those three programs on an external page also visible to others, to the non-members?

The programs are visible to all Downline Farm members only, so non-members would need to join free to to see them. If they join through my link, I also have some flexibility to hide some programs to reduce clutter.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Feb, 2019 at 1:00am

oldbuddy wrote on 11th Feb, 2019 at 3:07am:
The programs are visible to all Downline Farm members only, so non-members would need to join free to to see them. If they join through my link, I also have some flexibility to hide some programs to reduce clutter.

How many views does it get? Do they provide the stats?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Feb, 2019 at 6:37pm
So what say ye SS? Are you going to check this out?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Feb, 2019 at 7:20pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Feb, 2019 at 6:37pm:
So what say ye SS? Are you going to check this out?

I'm thinking of doing so..
Oldbuddy can we have your ref-link?

If possible it would be cool if you could post it in our downline builder board:

https://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?board=downlinebuilder

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Feb, 2019 at 12:25am
After contacting through email, oldbuddy passed me his ref link so I'm now in.
Here are some internal stats you may find interest in:


Quote:
General Statistics

Total Members As Of February 18, 2019 = 2921
************
Total Members End Of January, 2019 = 2859
Value of each share for January 2019 = $0.496302
************
Total Members End Of December, 2018 = 2702
Value of each share for December 2018 = $0.49764
************
Total Members End Of November, 2018 = 2556
Value of each share for November 2018 = $0.733434

***********
Total Members End Of October, 2018 = 2433
Value of each share for October 2018 = $0.474762

***********
Total Members End Of September, 2018 = 2273
Value of each share for September 2018 = $0.459596


I have not upgraded yet, so if anyone joins intending to do so please let me know so that I do upgrade first. :)
I'll look deeper into it and possibly get to add my ref links in the downline builders there soon.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Feb, 2019 at 12:25am:
After contacting through email, oldbuddy passed me his ref link so I'm now in.
Here are some internal stats you may find interest in:


I have not upgraded yet, so if anyone joins intending to do so please let me know so that I do upgrade first. :)
I'll look deeper into it and possibly get to add my ref links in the downline builders there soon.



It's growing but still not very big yet. Due to the seniority system, this could be beneficial

I am interested in joining

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Feb, 2019 at 7:51am
Having to copy your referrer's info into the form could lose us lots of referrals. That's not the best system since many people like to bypass referrers. That will need to be tested for effectiveness.

So your only options for payouts are paypal or ORU. ORU charges a monthly fee plus $24.95 to start. If we use paypal, they might freeze our account. Maybe if the site paypal gets frozen they will be forced to use crypto

It might be wise to wait a while to cash out. Too bad we couldn't spend that money on advertising

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Feb, 2019 at 11:46pm
Thanks, I've just confirmed you're in my downline.

I think I'll be fine with PayPal on this one.. not that I will cashout anytime soon.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Feb, 2019 at 12:50am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Feb, 2019 at 11:46pm:
Thanks, I've just confirmed you're in my downline.

I think I'll be fine with PayPal on this one.. not that I will cashout anytime soon.. :)


I find the site, especially the downline builder, to be a little messy. It is also slow to load at times. This could be a problem as it gets larger

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Feb, 2019 at 2:30am

moneymarketing wrote on 21st Feb, 2019 at 12:50am:
I find the site, especially the downline builder, to be a little messy. It is also slow to load at times. This could be a problem as it gets larger

It's an old school design.. based on "tables" instead of "blocks" (like modern ones).

However that does not affect the loading times.. it's the loading of too many entries in one page that is responsible of that.

Take the downline builder page for example.. I bet loading all the banners at once is the main cause.

Just take a look at this:



The site is trying to load all these banners from external sites that have most likely removed them or do not exist at all.
So, all of these are trying to load until a timeout happens..  :-/

Now having so many without removing the invalid ones is a sign of really bad maintenance.. which is a negative for newcomers, especially those who browse in mobile devices..

However I'll try adding my ref ids to some of the links there and see how it goes.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:22pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm:
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

There are no provisions for individual members to add banners to their link listing. Keep in mind that this is not your normal downline builder, but an actual income producing program in it's infancy.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:59pm

oldbuddy wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:22pm:
There are no provisions for individual members to add banners to their link listing. Keep in mind that this is not your normal downline builder, but an actual income producing program in it's infancy.


That's too bad. Banners make promoting so much more effective. The site is poorly laid out in ways but I guess if it is for income it doesn't matter too much

BTW SS, I will be getting paid by paypal soon in one of the few sites left that still pays that way. I suggest you get ready to upgrade so as to benefit

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 8:20pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm:
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

Well, there is a way that works..  :P
I took a look at the code of some downline builder entries that had a banner showing up and they seem to be including the image within the description using simple HTML syntax.. so to add an image you can use the following code:


Code (html):
<img src="https://preview.ibb.co/mBxEh5/Forum_Logo800x125.png"/>;


Just replace the banner URL with your own and insert it in the description. :)

Basically add some short description text, then break the line and paste this code there.
After saving it will show your own banner.

I added the FamilyClix entry just to check it out.

Normally a site should be preventing us from entering HTML code in input fields as it is really easy to hack it.
For example one could use javascript code there and alter all links showing up to point to his own ref ids.. just like that. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 9:13pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 8:20pm:
Well, there is a way that works..  :P
I took a look at the code of some downline builder entries that had a banner showing up and they seem to be including the image within the description using simple HTML syntax.. so to add an image you can use the following code:


Code (html):
<img src="https://preview.ibb.co/mBxEh5/Forum_Logo800x125.png"/>;


Just replace the banner URL with your own and insert it in the description. :)

Basically add some short description text, then break the line and paste this code there.
After saving it will show your own banner.

I added the FamilyClix entry just to check it out.

Normally a site should be preventing us from entering HTML code in input fields as it is really easy to hack it.
For example one could use javascript code there and alter all links showing up to point to his own ref ids.. just like that. :)


That's awesome! It works like a charm. Even with an animated gif!



[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 10:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 9:13pm:
That's awesome! It works like a charm. Even with an animated gif!



[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

Also, I forgot to mention, since it's you that posted that entry, by clicking the "DEL" you can remove it afterwards.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 24th Feb, 2019 at 4:15am
As a payback for that tip, I carried it one step further and used some of my own banners to show more detail on how they can earn from it. They will help my downline too, so they have more incentive to join.




Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 10:48pm:
Also, I forgot to mention, since it's you that posted that entry, by clicking the "DEL" you can remove it afterwards.



Yep. Already figured out the DEL button when I tried posting earlier  [smiley=lolx.gif]

BTW, Dan was asking about the BoB exchangers working in there. I told him I didn't think it would work

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 24th Feb, 2019 at 12:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am:
Yep. Already figured out the DEL button when I tried posting earlier  [smiley=lolx.gif]

BTW, Dan was asking about the BoB exchangers working in there. I told him I didn't think it would work

They will work but I think it will not be a relevant place for them there.

The downline builder is for specific programs and the image should show information about the program itself..

Keep in mind that the banner itself is just to attract the attention, it's not supposed to be clickable nor contain information about other programs.

That would cause confusion, as it's not dynamic banner advertising space.

But other than that we can use it normally as a downline builder with the BoB banner that describes BoB program itself. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Feb, 2019 at 10:14pm

SolidSnake wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 12:48pm:
They will work but I think it will not be a relevant place for them there.

Is that an assumption that the BoB exchange would work in there or did you test it out? Cause some forms or programs do require that the image ends in a .jpg or .gif format.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Feb, 2019 at 1:46am

dansbanners wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Is that an assumption that the BoB exchange would work in there or did you test it out? Cause some forms or programs do require that the image ends in a .jpg or .gif format.

They allow html code to be inserted which is already a big security hole, so I don't expect them to run a validation on the image extension.

I personally wouldn't try it, since it defeats the downline builder's purpose, and could even put my account at risk.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Feb, 2019 at 3:50pm
I got paid SS, so just waiting for you to upgrade  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Feb, 2019 at 10:07pm

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Feb, 2019 at 3:50pm:
I got paid SS, so just waiting for you to upgrade  :money

Well, here I am.. upgraded to Gold..  [smiley=z06-guitar.gif]

It shows up in my upgrade page so the process is completed.
And I've added R4A in both Bitcoin and Income programs categories, plus YGP in PTCs.

I saw Paidverts was already added twice, so I'm not the first one to add in multiple categories, and I also added my username there.

I like the idea of preventing users from spamming the downline builder with hundreds of programs.
At least now they have to get in the trouble of creating multiple accounts to add many programs at once. [smiley=lolx.gif]

Let's see what the first month will deliver..
Oh, and oldbuddy check out your commissions.. we should make sure the system actually works.  ;D

[edit]Funny thing is I already got a referral for R4A coming from downlinefarm within a few hours.. :o[/edit]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Feb, 2019 at 7:40am
I upgraded so check your stats

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Feb, 2019 at 9:16am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Feb, 2019 at 7:40am:
I upgraded so check your stats

Confirmed!

Both in my referrals list and I also got a $0.7 commission, so we're cool!

Title: Re: DownlineFarm.com - A downline builder with benefits
Post by oldbuddy on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:16pm
Thank you gentlemen, I hope you do well with it.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Feb, 2019 at 12:19am
If a site has more than one signup link in the downline builder, it might be wise to put your user ID in each one in case your downline chooses the wrong one

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Feb, 2019 at 2:06am

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Feb, 2019 at 12:19am:
If a site has more than one signup link in the downline builder, it might be wise to put your user ID in each one in case your downline chooses the wrong one

Yeap, of course.. each one is in different listing.

So, today I also got a referral for YGP from downlinefarm... Not sure how they do it but the system seems to be working!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:23am

SolidSnake wrote on 25th Feb, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Well, here I am.. upgraded to Gold..  [smiley=z06-guitar.gif]


Oh, and oldbuddy check out your commissions.. we should make sure the system actually works.  ;D


Thanks, my commission is there.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Feb, 2019 at 9:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm:
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

You can disable "Newsletters" in your profile page.. :)

There's a different checkbox there for referral notifications as well, but I guess you'd love to keep that on..  ::)  :P

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 1st Mar, 2019 at 5:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm:
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

I don't mind at all, since those emails go to my referrals too and if they sign up to the program being pushed I get the referral (if I have my ID updated in it).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Mar, 2019 at 6:57pm
Good points guys

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS. I want to test this site at neobux. At worst people will sign up and add to our seniority

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 6:46am


:cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 7:35am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am:
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS. I want to test this site at neobux. At worst people will sign up and add to our seniority


Changed my mind. I'll run a one week campaign at r4a

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 9:54am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 7:35am:
Changed my mind. I'll run a one week campaign at r4a





Quote:
You have referred a new member. Congratulations.


[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 5:53pm
It's funny to watch people be so greedy they can't let you win a referral contest. I saw the same thing at r4a where the number of opposing referral hits went up by about 50% to match mine and then down again the very next week.

On the positive side, if it happens here at DF it will help all of us because it will increase our seniority but it is still kind of embarrassing to watch

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 8:31pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 5:53pm:
It's funny to watch people be so greedy they can't let you win a referral contest. I saw the same thing at r4a where the number of opposing referral hits went up by about 50% to match mine and then down again the very next week.

On the positive side, if it happens here at DF it will help all of us because it will increase our seniority but it is still kind of embarrassing to watch


Take a look at this guy:






He's put on half as many hits in three days as he did in 15 days last week. Why? To win the contest? This is silly. How much is he spending to do this?

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:12pm
What can the points be used for? And how to earn points?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:13pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am:
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS.
Thanks! :)

I just use free credits in YGP (with my special free method), Paidverts (typical bulk ads), FamilyBTC (with the current speed there I'm set in credits to advertise for two lifetimes..   ;D ).

I will look up older programs, I used in the past, to see if I have any credits accumulated in my balance.

I also got another referral and they granted me a share profit of $0.94, due to your upgrade so thanks for that.  [smiley=beer.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2019 at 12:22am

dansbanners wrote on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:12pm:
What can the points be used for? And how to earn points?


It's just a hit counter for the referral contest running every two weeks. $10 to $1 in prizes for the top ten

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm
That's nice. 8 referrals! Check your list guys. I think many from the r4a ad joined under the admin due to the way the sign up works but if everyone is benefiting it will excite the whole crowd

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Mar, 2019 at 11:30pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm:
That's nice. 8 referrals! Check your list guys. I think many from the r4a ad joined under the admin due to the way the sign up works but if everyone is benefiting it will excite the whole crowd

No change on my list.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Mar, 2019 at 6:17am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Mar, 2019 at 11:30pm:
No change on my list.. :)


That's odd. The tracker says only three came from r4a. I assumed the rest were random. Maybe they just weren't tracked properly due to cookie blocking or something

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 7th Mar, 2019 at 8:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Mar, 2019 at 6:17am:
That's odd. The tracker says only three came from r4a. I assumed the rest were random. Maybe they just weren't tracked properly due to cookie blocking or something

I got one from R4A today.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Mar, 2019 at 8:26am

SolidSnake wrote on 7th Mar, 2019 at 8:59pm:
I got one from R4A today.. :)


:-?

Now I am completely confused

:dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Mar, 2019 at 8:54am
I don't feel bad when I see other referral pages out there. I actually feel excited. I know those are people who are contributing to our 'seniority' and will eventually help us to earn money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Mar, 2019 at 10:15am
So my r4a one week ad has finished. Including random referrals, I received 15 referrals for 26.99. If I win the contest, which I should, that will be another $10. So that would be 15 referrals for $16.99 or just over $1.13 per referral. No upgrades yet.

I also emailed the admin and suggested he allow us to upgrade for a full year so that we don't need to bother with paypal for a year

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2019 at 4:47pm
So it looks like I was one of the 'lucky' ones that got all my programs purged from the downline builder. What a waste of work!  >:(

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Mar, 2019 at 12:50pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2019 at 4:47pm:
So it looks like I was one of the 'lucky' ones that got all my programs purged from the downline builder. What a waste of work!  >:(

How exactly?  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Mar, 2019 at 3:28am

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Mar, 2019 at 12:50pm:
How exactly?  :-?


As per a recent newsletter


Quote:
When members add their programs Incorrectly, not following the instructions, it causes malfunctions to the downline builder for EVERYONE.

So I have to delete programs that are added incorrectly. Check your added programs, if they are gone it's because they were deleted for the above mentioned reason.

The software programmers worked hard to fix  the problems that were caused by members programs that were added wrong.

Our business is to build your downlines. However, if you don't add your programs CORRECTLY your prospects cannot sign up, or EVEN VISIT YOUR programs.

Please follow the instructions EXACTLY. They are on your Home page, as well as the pages where you add your program.


The thing is, my programs weren't added wrong they were added right. The difference being I used your banner trick to display banners. Mine may have been duplicates but they were duplicates that had banners in them. The other links did not, so they went after mine and deleted them. At least that is the only reason I could see. And they only got motivated to clean up the page after we posted our banners

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Mar, 2019 at 3:02am

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Mar, 2019 at 3:28am:
The thing is, my programs weren't added wrong they were added right. The difference being I used your banner trick to display banners. Mine may have been duplicates but they were duplicates that had banners in them. The other links did not, so they went after mine and deleted them. At least that is the only reason I could see. And they only got motivated to clean up the page after we posted our banners

That's weird.. they didn't touch my entries.. :-?

But I did search prior to posting in order to make sure there was no previous entry for each program..

Funny thing is I was gonna state that it would be cool if they performed a cleanup to old entries that lead to closed sites.  :beatup

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Mar, 2019 at 4:14am

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Mar, 2019 at 3:02am:
That's weird.. they didn't touch my entries.. :-?

But I did search prior to posting in order to make sure there was no previous entry for each program..

Funny thing is I was gonna state that it would be cool if they performed a cleanup to old entries that lead to closed sites.  :beatup


I checked also. Two of the sites were not posted. One had a large banner which is probably what caused the offense and the other was animated which was probably also what drew attention.

You can be good, just not too good   ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Mar, 2019 at 8:39am
I'm going to give the r4a ad spot another shot. This time I'll use the main page and not a splash

We all benefit no matter what. Getting closer to the 250 downline below us mark for the whole site so our share benefits should double soon

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2019 at 9:10am
Stats are growing nice. I can't wait to do a test run at neobux  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Mar, 2019 at 3:45pm
Looks like we received our top promoter bonuses too! :)

These ones come every 2 weeks so if you top them both you get a fine $20 return per month.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2019 at 8:40pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th Mar, 2019 at 3:45pm:
Looks like we received our top promoter bonuses too! :)

These ones come every 2 weeks so if you top them both you get a fine $20 return per month.. :)


Yes,

It only cost me $27 plus free traffic to win the $10  ;D

PTC math wins again!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Mar, 2019 at 8:39am
It looks like I caused my promoter contest rival to up his game so that is good for all of us  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Mar, 2019 at 12:12am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Mar, 2019 at 8:39am:
It looks like I caused my promoter contest rival to up his game so that is good for all of us  :)

Let's see how far he'll go.. :)

Btw, I got another referral from a 1538(delivered)/50(ordered) visitors campaign at PV..  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Mar, 2019 at 7:02am

SolidSnake wrote on 19th Mar, 2019 at 12:12am:
Let's see how far he'll go.. :)

Btw, I got another referral from a 1538(delivered)/50(ordered) visitors campaign at PV..  ;D


I've got bad news for him. I've just kicked in the afterburners. A fixed ad at Neobux.  :D


If only I could explain to him it is nothing personal, just business  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2019 at 1:54am
Are you getting any random referrals from neobux SS?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Mar, 2019 at 2:07am

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Mar, 2019 at 1:54am:
Are you getting any random referrals from neobux SS?

Nope.. I just got another one from PV.. to a total of 7 (including you).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Mar, 2019 at 8:28am
So I'm thinking how this could work is, once our referrals get a lot of people under them in the share program, it will make sense for them to upgrade since they will have the share multiplying system working in their favor. It may take to 60k or 70k members for people to have the incentive to upgrade but getting people in early now would be smart. It would make it easier to sell them on upgrades once they realize that their upgrade would be instantly cash flow positive

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Mar, 2019 at 10:34pm
So I re-added one of my banners. It shows up fine on my 'income generation' page but no longer shows on the main downline builder page

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Mar, 2019 at 8:24pm
Hey! I got my first one after 63 referrals!


Quote:
2019-03-20 09:15:26      N/A      Gold Downline Farm      0.70


That's cool!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

That also doubles my share earnings. Wow, I am starting to see how this can geometrically grow.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Mar, 2019 at 11:17pm
Our efforts are being noticed


Quote:
Valued Downline Farm Members,
I have noticed lately that several members are using Paid advertising services to promote Downline Farm.

I wanted to take this opportunity to let those members know how much I appreciate their putting their faith, and their hard-earned money into our business.

With all of the business opportunities out there, these members have chosen to invest in Downline Farm. I know how hard it is to find a business opportunity worth investing your money in. You have to be Brave to take those risks with your money.

The way our compensation plan works, EVERYBODY will benefit from the efforts of these brave members, so we ALL should appreciate their investment.

And lastly, I want to let members who spend their hard-earned money promoting us know that we are doing everything possible to make that investment pay off.

The way our compensation plan works, it builds Slowly over time. It's not designed to explode at the beginning and then fizzle, like other plans. It's built to create slow, steady, unstoppable Growth.

The secret ingredient You need to add is PATIENCE.

We have more income producing ideas that will add money to the profit sharing pool, but they are mostly things that would require a larger membership group than what we currently have.

Once we reach 5000 members we will start introducing these new income streams.

You can see what we add to the profit sharing pool Now on the "Stats" page. We share our profits from programs such as AIOP, WeeklyICO, the PTC and Bitcoin/Crypto programs, revenue from the advertising we have on the splash pages, and other things.

These additions to the profit sharing pool will only get bigger in the future. Right now we are a very small program, but growing steadily.

The PayPal issues really slowed down our momentum, but with the new payment processor (Stripe) we hope to get back to where we were soon.

Thanks again for investing in Downline Farm,
Roberto

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 1:12am

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Mar, 2019 at 11:17pm:
Our efforts are being noticed

The power of "giving".. ;)

I love it when we motivate people to do more than just stick around.
And it reflects in our earnings too..



The first month has already paid off the membership with just 1 upgraded referral (yeap.. you :D)..

Not to mention a bunch of referrals for other programs downlinerefs has got me..

I didn't get the "PayPal issues" part he was talking about... does that have to do with another program or his own account?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 6:57am

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 1:12am:
The power of "giving".. ;)

I love it when we motivate people to do more than just stick around.
And it reflects in our earnings too..



The first month has already paid off the membership with just 1 upgraded referral (yeap.. you :D)..

Not to mention a bunch of referrals for other programs downlinerefs has got me..

I didn't get the "PayPal issues" part he was talking about... does that have to do with another program or his own account?


Yes, I'm sitting at 22.99 for my month. This includes two first-place wins in the referral contest.  I had to spend some ad dollars to achieve that but since it is online earnings I spent, it would have been spent on advertising anyway and it got me one paid referral so far.

I think I recall him saying some members had problems with their PP accounts being limited

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 7:13am
We also achieved the first seniority level bonus at 250+ members below us so our shares are effectively four each now

You need to jump on this Dan before I start compounding this like mad.

When the new paidverts site opens I'll be promoting this exclusively and they don't give you the option of trading shares to get BAP

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Apr, 2019 at 6:04pm
Good to see you, Dan, now we can build under you even as a free member. When the group gets large enough under you, you can upgrade for instant profits.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th Apr, 2019 at 5:51pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Apr, 2019 at 6:04pm:
Good to see you, Dan, now we can build under you even as a free member. When the group gets large enough under you, you can upgrade for instant profits.

Thanks. Yes, that's a possibility somewhere down the road.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:14pm
Good to see you on the team Rui. Thought we lost you there for a time  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:23pm
So according to Rui's signup number, SS should be at seniority position 376. That's over1/3 the way to the 3x share position based on seniority alone.

oldbuddy at #1363 is well into that territory  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Apr, 2019 at 12:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:14pm:
Good to see you on the team Rui. Thought we lost you there for a time  :)


I've been around, lurking... like a ninja.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2019 at 10:31pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Apr, 2019 at 12:34pm:
I've been around, lurking... like a ninja.

;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Apr, 2019 at 12:27am
It's always good to have a ninja joining our downline..  :cool1

Welcome Rui!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:40pm
I see you have raced up to be in third place in the referral contest SS.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:42pm
I'm pretty consistently getting about 1 referral for every 2k page views at Neobux

Also, I can't wait for PTCshare to start up so I can put the ad on there. There should be some really strong activity there the first few weeks

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd May, 2019 at 2:20am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:42pm:
I'm pretty consistently getting about 1 referral for every 2k page views at Neobux

Also, I can't wait for PTCshare to start up so I can put the ad on there. There should be some really strong activity there the first few weeks

Nah, it's just that it's the start of the month and I got a PV campaign that did boost me there..

But if others start promoting as well, I'll just stick to the 4-10th positions.. :)

Btw, I haven't received a referral for almost 3 weeks now.. not sure what goes that wrong..  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2019 at 8:19pm

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd May, 2019 at 2:20am:
Nah, it's just that it's the start of the month and I got a PV campaign that did boost me there..

But if others start promoting as well, I'll just stick to the 4-10th positions.. :)

Btw, I haven't received a referral for almost 3 weeks now.. not sure what goes that wrong..  :dontknow


Were you able to upload their banners to PV. They are php files so I am not able to get them accepted. Did you convert them? If so, how?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2019 at 8:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th May, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Were you able to upload their banners to PV. They are php files so I am not able to get them accepted. Did you convert them? If so, how?


nevermind. The internet solved it  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th May, 2019 at 11:05pm
Approaching the 500 mark for people below in the downline

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th May, 2019 at 2:37am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th May, 2019 at 11:05pm:
Approaching the 500 mark for people below in the downline

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Jun, 2019 at 10:08am
My last referral joined 2 days ago and his ref id was 3486 so that's 560 positions below me.

Once the difference crosses 1000 positions the Seniority Share Multiplier will start kicking in and it will take care of my upgraded membership itself.

After then it will all be profit!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Another good thing is that it's relatively easy (compared to popular sites) to remain in the top 10 promoter positions for extra bonuses. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Jun, 2019 at 3:03pm
That's good to hear! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Jun, 2019 at 7:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jun, 2019 at 10:08am:
My last referral joined 2 days ago and his ref id was 3486 so that's 560 positions below me.

Once the difference crosses 1000 positions the Seniority Share Multiplier will start kicking in and it will take care of my upgraded membership itself.

After then it will all be profit!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Another good thing is that it's relatively easy (compared to popular sites) to remain in the top 10 promoter positions for extra bonuses. :)



Yes, things are going better than expected there. So much so that I've returned to advertising r4a at YGP with my share pack credits and will only advertise this via banners and PTCS when it starts. I'm getting a profit every month so far. and now have a $50 cushion at Paypal (not all from DF), so I don't need to win the contest or even compete. I'll use the more efficient banners to get my referrals and leave the contest to others. That will encourage more people to promote.

I think PTCS will provide enough hits to win the contest anyway but that won't be a priority. With banners, I hope to pick up two or three referrals per day

Seeing some signs of good life again in online earnings after a tough year

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Jun, 2019 at 3:53pm
I've added PTCShare to the PTC and Surveys section of downlinefarm downline builder, so make sure you add your username as well. :)

One good thing of our team-play is that we can share our entries.

We can only add up to 3 programs when upgraded each (or 1 program as free members as well), so we can add different ones and add all our referral links there.

This way we can have links for more programs we work on than the actual limit. ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jun, 2019 at 4:01pm
What do you think of this banner for downline farm? I'm not fond of the banners they have because the focus is not on the great affiliate opportunity which I think is the thing that makes the site stand out. This tries to address that and does get clicks and signups

How could it not? It's like a blaring traffic beacon!  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 1:02am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Jun, 2019 at 4:01pm:
What do you think of this banner for downline farm? I'm not fond of the banners they have because the focus is not on the great affiliate opportunity which I think is the thing that makes the site stand out. This tries to address that and does get clicks and signups

How could it not? It's like a blaring traffic beacon!  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]


Maybe you should add something like.. "Not just by your own referrals!".. maybe it would make a great gif.. ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 3:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 1:02am:
Maybe you should add something like.. "Not just by your own referrals!".. maybe it would make a great gif.. ;)



Yes, that could work. For some reason, I resisted making it a gif but it still seems to work. I think it stands out well at most sites due to high contrast. A gif might take it to the next level but there is also the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

I'm pulling in two referrals per day on average so that is a good pace. I'm wondering if I were to give it to the admin, if our referring would explode upwards

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 5:48pm
The traffic at PTCS can be used to show the trafficG page. It gives one credit for two page views. Those credits can be converted to banner impressions which can be the DF banner. So that is also a way to multiply your banner traffic. I haven't tested the banner at trafficG but I think it will work there since the audience is good for that kind of thing

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 6:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 5:48pm:
The traffic at PTCS can be used to show the trafficG page. It gives one credit for two page views. Those credits can be converted to banner impressions which can be the DF banner. So that is also a way to multiply your banner traffic. I haven't tested the banner at trafficG but I think it will work there since the audience is good for that kind of thing


I'm going to test the banner at TG. I have 300K impressions so 100K is a fair test. With the DF referral tracking system, we can see how many actual signups we get. The bonus is that this traffic is all free since we get paid to advertise at PTCS

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jul, 2019 at 12:30am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)


So PTCS is creating some nice positive synergy in these sites. I'm only two places behind you and got paid $23.71 thanks to the referral contests which were won due to my PTCS ads. So I'm paid up for a little while at DF. It should be about a month when we cross that 1k threshold unless we can do something to accelerate the process

The results are starting to come in on the TG campaign. 1 click per every 3000 views. That's not that good. No signups so far. It takes about 240 page views at PTCS to create that. I will continue to monitor the results

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Jul, 2019 at 4:37pm
It appears ORU is finally ready for prime time now that they have decided to add a free option to their network. I think we should consider this here since with it we will be able to bump Paypal and use this for our DF transactions. I'm sure you got the email. Let's discuss

Details:

Quote:
**ORU LITE members can receive payments from other members to their account (Including Downine Farm Commissions!).

**When an ORU LITE member refers another member who registers as Premium Member, the ORU LITE member receives a $10 Commission that same day.
You also qualify for Downline Commission DOWN TO 10 LEVELS.

**ORU LITE members can also add funds to their account with credit/debit cards at any time.

**ORU Premium Members get rewarded each day through the ORUScore reward system. (This is a fantastic, one-of-a-kind Profit Sharing feature)

**ORU LITE members ALSO get rewarded each day through the ORUScore system albeit a lesser score and reward.

**ORU LITE members automatically become Premium Members when their MYFUNDS account reaches $34.34.  Once this happens, their LITE account becomes Premium and they can request the ORU Visa Black Card.

**Once an ORU LITE member is upgraded to Premium Membership, they will be billed $5.95 from their MYFUNDS account.

**If a Premium Member fails to make the monthly membership payment of $5.95, their account temporarily reverts back to ORU LITE
free membership until such time that their account has accumulated at least $5.95 to make the Premium Membership payment and they are automatically re-activated for at least a whole membership month.

**An ORU LITE member can refer other ORU LITE members and receive ORUScore points which results in a higher reward each day.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
EVERY member of Downline Farm is being sent this message, so you must HURRY and sign up to ORU Right Now, BEFORE your referrals do, and ADD YOUR ORU ID To the "Income Programs" downline builder, or you will miss out on those ORU referrals.

So go now to your "Income Programs" page in Downline Farm. DO NOT sign up from any other ORU link, you Must sign up from your
Downline Farm account.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Jul, 2019 at 1:58pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)

I've just checked the stats page in downlinefarm and noticed that we are now (=yesterday) at a total of 3724 members which means the last one that has joined is 798 positions below me.

Now that's a 5 days difference (5th - 10th of July) since my last post meaning that 83 people have joined since then, which translates to ~16 people joining daily.
At this rate it will take ~12 days to cross 1000 positions below me

Based on our IDs here's how many days remain based on the above rate to hit x3 share multiplier
Member ID Positions Remaining Days (~16 members/day)
SolidSnake 2926 202 ~12
moneymarketing 2928 204 ~12
dansbanners 3280 444 ~27
ruicarlov 3302 578 ~36

(Here's an example that works in our case for outside visitors)

Just by being upgraded and having 1 upgraded referral the system grants us 2 shares.
So with the x3 multiplier we earn the amount of 6 shares in the Profit Sharing Pool which based on an average of $0.50 equals $3.
And if we have an upgraded referral below us that does the same we earn another $3 as a matching bonus just by him.
Plus another $0.70 as a 10% for his own upgrade.

So we end up with $6.70 with just 1 upgraded referral. :)
So the cost of our upgrade is almost fully covered and then there are extra bonuses for more referrals or the top referrers contest monthly.

Plus we get free referrals for our programs in the downline builder every now and then.. :)

:money [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jul, 2019 at 9:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 11th Jul, 2019 at 1:58pm:
I've just checked the stats page in downlinefarm and noticed that we are now (=yesterday) at a total of 3724 members which means the last one that has joined is 798 positions below me.

Now that's a 5 days difference (5th - 10th of July) since my last post meaning that 83 people have joined since then, which translates to ~16 people joining daily.
At this rate it will take ~12 days to cross 1000 positions below me

Based on our IDs here's how many days remain based on the above rate to hit x3 share multiplier
Member ID Positions Remaining Days (~16 members/day)
SolidSnake 2926 202 ~12
moneymarketing 2928 204 ~12
dansbanners 3280 444 ~27
ruicarlov 3302 578 ~36

(Here's an example that works in our case for outside visitors)

Just by being upgraded and having 1 upgraded referral the system grants us 2 shares.
So with the x3 multiplier we earn the amount of 6 shares in the Profit Sharing Pool which based on an average of $0.50 equals $3.
And if we have an upgraded referral below us that does the same we earn another $3 as a matching bonus just by him.
Plus another $0.70 as a 10% for his own upgrade.

So we end up with $6.70 with just 1 upgraded referral. :)
So the cost of our upgrade is almost fully covered and then there are extra bonuses for more referrals or the top referrers contest monthly.

Plus we get free referrals for our programs in the downline builder every now and then.. :)

:money [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Yes, cash flow positive just for being on the team and plugging the site into free PTCS advertising  :money [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Jul, 2019 at 3:26pm
So, it seems to have taken a bit longer than expected..  :)


Quote:
Total Members As Of July 30th, 2019 = 3826

Just 100 more positions left for my upgrade.. but it took 20 days to get the last 100.

So maybe next month we'll get there. :)

It will be my wedding gift I guess..  ;D

Furthermore.. we got another email from DLF:

Quote:
I hope you've had a great month of July, and will have an even Better August.

This email is going out to All of our Gold members.

As you may know, PayPal has been closing accounts of many Online Advertising services. Now Stripe has started doing the same.

One of the Advertising Services we use for our Gold Rotator Ad Co-op were victims of this, so I wasn't able to place my advertisement with them this month.

I decided to Refund that money to you, our Gold Members, by putting it into the Profit Sharing Pool.

It's not much, as it was only ONE of our advertising sources that we couldn't use, but it should give your July Profit Sharing commission a little boost. And if you have Gold referrals, your Matching Bonuses will also get a boost.

Thanks again for being such an important part of our Downline Farm family.

So we expect another boost this month..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2019 at 7:21am

SolidSnake wrote on 31st Jul, 2019 at 3:26pm:
So, it seems to have taken a bit longer than expected..  :)

Just 100 more positions left for my upgrade.. but it took 20 days to get the last 100.

So maybe next month we'll get there. :)

It will be my wedding gift I guess..  ;D

Furthermore.. we got another email from DLF:
So we expect another boost this month..


With the matching bonus that $50 might push us pretty close to profit.

I know I have slowed on the referring. Only about 1-2 per day. It will pick up when I get to the next level at PTCS and I start spending more on banners. Until then all the cash is rolled back into BAP ads to get me to the next level

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Aug, 2019 at 10:03pm
So, this was a nice month in DLF! :)

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2019-06-15 00:01:04 N/A Matching Bonus 2.12 Unpaid
2019-06-16 00:03:07 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-06-26 06:03:44 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-01 00:01:05 N/A Profit Sharing 1.95 Unpaid
2019-07-01 00:03:06 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-07-04 22:51:19 N/A Gold Random Referral 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 1.95 Unpaid
2019-07-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 0.49 Unpaid
2019-07-16 00:03:05 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-07-24 08:30:38 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-26 07:51:53 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-08-01 00:01:06 N/A Profit Sharing 2.93 Unpaid
2019-08-01 00:03:04 N/A Top Promoter Winner 5.00 Unpaid
Total Owing: $20.24

To think that this is basically passive earnings with a $7 investment and some spare advertising used upon it..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Aug, 2019 at 3:51am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Aug, 2019 at 10:03pm:
So, this was a nice month in DLF! :)
To think that this is basically passive earnings with a $7 investment and some spare advertising used upon it..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Good for you SS! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 5:46pm
Cool!

I just checked my commissions and I'm now up to three upgrades. That should help your matching bonuses too SS.  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:15pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Cool!

I just checked my commissions and I'm now up to three upgrades. That should help your matching bonuses too SS.  :money



:o

LOL! Make that 5.

I don't know what is happening but I guess as these people see the downline grow under them they want to participate in the upgrade. Very cool  :money :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:28pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:15pm:
:o

LOL! Make that 5.

I don't know what is happening but I guess as these people see the downline grow under them they want to participate in the upgrade. Very cool  :money :D



I think I'm reading the chart wrong. It looks like four but one appears to be a duplicate so it could be three if the duplicate gets removed. I also counted one that was already an upgrade twice.

But it looks like three for sure

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Aug, 2019 at 11:43pm
I'm not sure I understand the carry over effect of the program?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:40am

dansbanners wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 11:43pm:
I'm not sure I understand the carry over effect of the program?



Quote:
Gold Members get a 100% Matching Bonus on Profit Share earnings of your personally referred Affiliates. (EG: If they earn $10, You earn $10)


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Aug, 2019 at 3:57pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:40am:
Gold Members get a 100% Matching Bonus on Profit Share earnings of your personally referred Affiliates. (EG: If they earn $10, You earn $10)

Just keep in mind that this *ONLY* includes commissions earned through share profits.. this does not include bonuses from referral upgrades or top referrer contest earnings etc.


Quote:
Income Streams
Downline Farm offers you 4 income streams:

Referral Commissions
Profit Sharing Pool <- this is the one we are talking about
Matching Bonus
Commissions From 3rd Party Programs


It's rather easy to calculate that profit:


Here's my own example:
My id is 2926 and by the end of July the number of members excedded 3830. This means that 900+ people have joined the program after me. That puts me in the 250 - 999 range in the seniority multiplier scale which means my shares get multiplied by x2 for now.

I have upgraded myself and have 2 upgraded referrals so according to the first table I get 2 shares.
So my total shares count equals 4 after the multiplication (x2).

MM is at the next tier based on the first table getting 4 shares that are also multiplied by 2 so his total number of shares is 8.

Now the actual share profit is based on the number of shares multiplied by the monthly amount of the profit pool as shown in the Stats page:
Value of each share for July, 2019 = $0.733402

So my share profits were: 4 x $0.733402 = $2.93
MM's share profits were: 8 x $0.733402 = $5.87

Now that we understand the basic share profit we can get to the Seniority multiplier increase:
As I said 900+ people have joined the program after me..
Once another 100 people join the program (not my own referrals - generally people that join the program under anyone's link), I will enter the 1000 - 3000 range so my multiplier gets increased to x3 instead of x2, thus my final number of shares gets increased to 2 x3 = 6 shares. MM gets to 4 x3 = 12 shares.

So based on the previous basic share profit of $0.733402 here are our calculations again:
My share profits *would be*: 6 x $0.733402 = $4.40
MM's share profits *would be*: 12 x $0.733402 = $8.80

And finally keep in mind that we also get a 100% matching bonus, so if MM gets $8.80 I also get that amount.. and he gets his own bonuses from his direct referrals as well.

The most important but actually simple thing in DLF is that the more people get in the program the more we all earn. It's a big profit pool we share here. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:50pm
That gives us a huge incentive to refer as well with that sharing bonus.

That's why I'm probably going to put all my DF earnings above expenses into a NB ad or something like that

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Aug, 2019 at 10:47am

moneymarketing wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:28am:
Also, I dropped a neobux traffic bomb on DF so that should get us to the next share threshold by month-end, SS

And I already got my 3rd Gold Ref!  [smiley=crazy.gif]

He's joined under me coming from my YGP campaign at Jul 22, 2019, and just upgraded!

That's awesome!
I'm now standing at 4 shares x2 = 8 shares

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Aug, 2019 at 8:46pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm:
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup


Yes, I wasn't too pleased with that either. They also don't have a very good selection of promotional banners but I have compensated by making my own.

The reason I was willing to overlook the username being inserted was because every member that joins after you will eventually contribute to your number of shares. Also, because it shares site revenues, everyone will benefit from site earnings anyway so it kind of mitigates the risk of losing your referrals.

Even with that, I've managed to gain 254 referrals so there are some honest people out there. I'm not sure I want the cheaters in my team anyway

I think the positives outweigh the negatives and SS, oldbuddy and I are already in positive cash flow after only a few months (mainly because of the referral contest)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Aug, 2019 at 11:00am

rotate4all.com wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm:
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup

Yeap that's annoying, and the site is poorly designed based on today's standards..

But even so, at least it works.. it seems to me that even older web users actually understand how it works and get along with their design issues..

Just a notice though (not intended to apply force or sth, just being informative), if you ever decide to join the program please respect our chain and join using the last link in the DLF downline builder..

This way the whole team benefits equally and the favor will be returned in another program in the future.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th Aug, 2019 at 4:39pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Aug, 2019 at 11:00am:
Just a notice though (not intended to apply force or sth, just being informative), if you ever decide to join the program please respect our chain and join using the last link in the DLF downline builder..

This way the whole team benefits equally and the favor will be returned in another program in the future.

I second it!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Aug, 2019 at 7:48am

Quote:
Total Members As Of August 11th, 2019 = 3878


I added 31 in my ad blitz so that brings us to 3909 or less than 20 needed in the second half of the month to get SS and me to the next share level

I've created two new banners. The click rate is excellent but I'm not sure about the conversion rate with the needs to add the referral name in. If the conversion is the same (usually 10% of clicks sign up) then the site is getting more signups which is a good thing even if we are getting burned





Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Aug, 2019 at 3:18pm
Haven't had any referrals for three days even though I'm promoting more than ever and was consistently getting two per day  :dontknow

Seeing 'anomalies' again

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Aug, 2019 at 11:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Aug, 2019 at 3:18pm:
Haven't had any referrals for three days even though I'm promoting more than ever and was consistently getting two per day  :dontknow

Seeing 'anomalies' again

Total Members As Of August 18th, 2019 = 4031

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Aug, 2019 at 8:52am

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Aug, 2019 at 11:59pm:
Total Members As Of August 18th, 2019 = 4031

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]


Wow! Huge bump. 200 new members  :money

So that's where all my referrals were going  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Aug, 2019 at 7:59am

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Aug, 2019 at 7:48am:
I added 31 in my ad blitz so that brings us to 3909 or less than 20 needed in the second half of the month to get SS and me to the next share level

I've created two new banners. The click rate is excellent but I'm not sure about the conversion rate with the needs to add the referral name in. If the conversion is the same (usually 10% of clicks sign up) then the site is getting more signups which is a good thing even if we are getting burned





I sent these to the admin. He said he would share them in a future email so this should give our members a boost in their promotions. I never felt any of the banners explained the true benefits of the programs but these ones will bring clickers in with the right mindset from the start. They also have a great CTR

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 2:11am
Another motivating bonus:


Quote:
Referral/Promoter Contest

How This Contest Works:
This is a Referral contest, but it is tied to our "Top Promoter Contest"
This contest runs on the schedule of the "Top Promoter Contest"
Only the top 25 finalists in the "Top Promoter Contest" qualify for this contest
One Prize will be awarded to the members with the most referrals at the end of each contest period.
Prizes may vary from month to month, and will be added to the winner's commissions.

Current Contest:

August 16th Through August 31st, 2019

Prize: $25.00

1st Place= $15

2nd Place= $10

3rd Place= $5

It seems that this may have been run a year ago and has been on stand by ever since, as the list of the previous winners doesn't match the current ones in the top promoters list.

Either way it's a good feature to inspire more people to promote.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 5:37am

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 2:11am:
Another motivating bonus:

It seems that this may have been run a year ago and has been on stand by ever since, as the list of the previous winners doesn't match the current ones in the top promoters list.

Either way it's a good feature to inspire more people to promote.


I told him in an email that this contest would be fairer if they embedded our referral link. Saying that if we don't get referrals, we don't make money and thus cannot afford to spend money promoting. This slows the growth of the site down

I hope he listens

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 7:34am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 5:37am:
I told him in an email that this contest would be fairer if they embedded our referral link. Saying that if we don't get referrals, we don't make money and thus cannot afford to spend money promoting. This slows the growth of the site down

I hope he listens


His response:


Quote:
The Referrer name field is only there for administrative purposes, it does
Not determine who gets the referral. Your ID is encoded into the html
of the page when someone clicks on your link, they can't change it.

They could put Mickey Mouse in the field and it wouldn't affect anything.
It's just there because it makes my work easier when I have to check on
some things. Most people leave the field blank.

We used to use cookies, but with the new European regulations, it's just
too much of a hassle, so I turned it off.

Roberto


So that is great news (except that my referring is not as good as expected and now I only have myself to blame  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 10:14am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 7:34am:
His response:


So that is great news (except that my referring is not as good as expected and now I only have myself to blame  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

  :)

That's good to know..

I mean the "not required" thing... not the "blame yourself" thing.. well.. maybe a bit of that too.. ::)  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 4:17pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 10:14am:
That's good to know..

I mean the "not required" thing... not the "blame yourself" thing.. well.. maybe a bit of that too.. ::)  ;D


[smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Aug, 2019 at 9:17pm
So I'm now budgeting for 250k banner impressions per week from PTCS.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Aug, 2019 at 5:38am
362 members in one month. That is a huge bump. Almost 10% growth in one month. Maybe the site is beginning to catch fire.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Sep, 2019 at 7:10am

Quote:
Profit Sharing      5.58


:o 8-) :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Sep, 2019 at 11:56pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Sep, 2019 at 7:10am:
:o 8-) :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Yay! Same here!  [smiley=11-freebeer.gif] :money

What would be interesting now would be an option to us to disable payouts just to let the cash fill up to one big payment instead of many small ones.

This way we could avoid a bunch of transaction fees.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Sep, 2019 at 2:59am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Sep, 2019 at 11:56pm:
Yay! Same here!  [smiley=11-freebeer.gif] :money

What would be interesting now would be an option to us to disable payouts just to let the cash fill up to one big payment instead of many small ones.

This way we could avoid a bunch of transaction fees.


I would also prefer to use that cash for upgrades. That would also save fees but I assume since it is a paypal subscrption that would be a bit more awkward.

So now we are complaining that the admin insists on paying us. There is no pleasing us!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Sep, 2019 at 3:27am

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm:
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think

Great! Congrats on winning the contest! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Sep, 2019 at 1:32pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm:
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think
Good job!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

How much do they charge for the 1 day ad?

PS.

Quote:
****************************************
Winner of the September 1st to 15th, 2019 contest:
Username: meneymarketing.
****************************************
;D How hard to write could it be?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Sep, 2019 at 6:33pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Sep, 2019 at 1:32pm:
Good job!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

How much do they charge for the 1 day ad?

PS.
;D How hard to write could it be?


$70  :o

Yes, it is a lot but you would also win the promoter contest too so you would get $25 in bonuses back. I will probably do it when we are getting our $100 maxed out every month

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Oct, 2019 at 5:42am
Personally, I find it difficult to believe we only got 65 referrals for the month of September. Considering I stepped up my referring and got a minimum of 25 (not counting the ones who quit). That means the entire rest of the site only got 40 after having brought in almost 400 the month before?  :-?

and it may not look like I'm promoting more but a larger majority of the clicks of the 16,000 are banner clicks. Like 50 per day. These are always higher quality clicks and usually produce up to a 10% sign up rate at most sites

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Oct, 2019 at 8:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Oct, 2019 at 5:42am:
Personally, I find it difficult to believe we only got 65 referrals for the month of September. Considering I stepped up my referring and got a minimum of 25 (not counting the ones who quit). That means the entire rest of the site only got 40 after having brought in almost 400 the month before?  :-?

and it may not look like I'm promoting more but a larger majority of the clicks of the 16,000 are banner clicks. Like 50 per day. These are always higher quality clicks and usually produce up to a 10% sign up rate at most sites



Quote:
Profit Sharing      6.49


I guess I can't really complain. Net costs before contest bonuses is down to 50 cents  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2019 at 1:08pm
The contest was very active in this cycle. This is great and what makes the program so beneficial since we all benefit from every referral everyone brings in so the more active and competitive the contest the better we all do

And this shows that a well-designed referral contest can be very beneficial

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Oct, 2019 at 1:23pm
Everything smooth with DLF so far. :)

Just to keep us up to date I received a referral yesterday with ID:4336

So, by now our whole team is upgraded to x3 multiplier!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

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