rotate4all.com wrote Yesterday at 12:57pm:


Yes, and it is not just about the quality of the design though that is important. It is about conveying a key benefit or message to your target audience. So many just focus on high-end imagery and not targeting their audience with their first filter

Getting them to click through is job one. Once they do that, then you need to keep them following through at least until you have some sort of contact info from them so you can follow up. That way you can lead them to join or buy what you are selling

We noticed the top spot gets the most exposure so we decided to remove the separate pricing for the 728x90 banners as those would get an unfair advantage over the rest as they were only 2 big banners in rotation which meant 50% of the time one of two got the top spot.

So in turn we'll have only one type of pricing regardless of the banner size (468x60 OR 728x90) and all of the 8 banners get their fair share of the top spot in a rotating manner.
Obviously the banners get automatically resized (enlarged or shrinked) to their spot size, regardless of the banner size submitted.

While the spot does matter quite a bit, the banner design plays the ultimate role in getting a high CTR.
So custom banners are a must if you want good results.

rotate4all.com wrote on 17^th Jan, 2020 at 9:05pm:


Huge page views. Impressive 

rotate4all.com wrote on 17^th Jan, 2020 at 3:12pm:

Sorry for misunderstanding. That's good to know.

Stats are live: https://www.rotate4all.com/promo/banners.php

Now tracking impressions and clicks for each banner individually.

Unlike other sites where you pay for impressions which nobody actually sees, we are counting only "true impressions", meaning only those which are visible to the user or scrolled to are counted as an impression, otherwise the impression is not counted.
Impressions, clicks and CTR are displayed under each banner while hovering over them with the mouse pointer.

That's it for now regarding stats. Moving on to setting up the order form.
If anyone's got more suggestions I'm all ears (or eyes).

I'm not aware of any such restrictions.

rotate4all.com wrote on 17^th Jan, 2020 at 3:12pm:


Do they allow using commercial images on their site or is it sort of a grey area?

I never said that they MUST use Imgur. I've said that I only recommend Imgur for hosting images.
Obviously you can host it wherever you want to as long as it's on a secure HTTPS connection it'd be just fine.

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Jan, 2020 at 7:01am:

To be really honest with you Rotate4All, I think he does have a point. Some may go "the only way I could use a banner in the program is to use Imgur? Ugh..." Although it's your call. You could give it a try and see how it goes.

That's not an issue really as I have explained images get cached by the user's browser. So it would only take "ages" to load on the first visit (if at all), while subsequent visits would load all images instantly from the cache, regardless of their size or where they're hosted.

rotate4all.com wrote on 16^th Jan, 2020 at 9:32pm:


Good to hear regarding animated banners.

Even though you recommend using Imgur, not all will. Some will just use the affiliate banners from a site. As more sites become https compliant this will be the path of least resistance, which is where most customers will go. I'm not saying it will happen but you could become dependent on the speeds of those sites and their speeds. I'm just letting you know because I have seen it happen. Maybe the net has taken care of the issue and it doesn't happen anymore

Animated banners are allowed of course. I would consider "annoying" those flashing banners we've all seen so many times around PTCs.
Yes the banners would be manually approved the same way like all rotator-advertising orders. This is necessary to weed out ads which would go against our terms.
We won't upload banners to our server. Since it's located in the US it won't benefit anyone except US visitors. Therefore we recommend Imgur because they're using several CDNs around the world to show images. Switching/replacing an image once uploaded to Imgur is impossible.
The page isn't slow at all. Here's the latest speedtest with all 8 images loaded from imgur: https://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.rotate4all.com/I0tZ505r
Any subsequent visits would be even faster as all static content including banner images would load from the browser's cache.
Text links? Don't think so, at least not at this time.
Click tracking is something that will be implemented asap of course. The goal is to show total impressions & clicks for each banner separately, as well as total visitors sent to the banner advertising page.
Paying users with banners impressions and/or cash is a good idea, noted.

Thank you for your questions/suggestions. Much appreciated!

rotate4all.com wrote on 16^th Jan, 2020 at 11:41am:


That looks good! Nice and clean and simple.

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This sounds familiar SS. 

Yep. We call it prime real estate (PRE) around here. What the customer sees the moment they click on the page

Questions


-You don't want flashing images but are any animated banners allowed? If so, I guess it is up to the discretion of the admin to decide if it is annoying?

-So you will approve all the banners? You might want to make it so people can upload the banners to the page so that they don't need to fetch the images from a third-party source (plus, it keeps them from switching banners after approval). I understand that it greatly increases loading speed (with 8 banners on the page, the odds of one being a slow loader are pretty good). You might want to experiment with that

-You might want to give people the option for text links

-And what about click tracking? That is actually a good marketing tool for your members so it will make them happy. If they see views/clicks on your banners, they will probably want to click on the popular ones. (people always want to go with the popular ones thinking it will make them popular)


-another thing you might want to try is giving members banner impressions instead of cash for showing that page. Give them the option to gain impressions or cash, or to cash the impressions in. Be generous though. They will reward you if you give 50% or greater. Once again, you might want to experiment.

I'm not sure I'll do it yet. I'm kind of limiting my advertising spending these days and focusing on just turning a profit but I think this will be very lucrative for you. I hope you do well with it. You are very much one of the good guys in our industry. I assume you are also becoming an employer and providing jobs too? 

rotate4all.com wrote on 16^th Jan, 2020 at 11:41am:

I suggest you change the "," to ".". As in $4.99, $9.99, etc. Just some constructive advice.

Introducing: banner advertising (beta) https://www.rotate4all.com/promo/banners.php

A dedicated page for banner advertising, taking up a permanent 10 slots in our rotator (that's at least 100k impressions/day).
Unlike other dedicated banner pages here you won't pay for a specific spot, rather for the banner size: 468x60 or 728x90, which gets rotated every time the page is accessed, thus ensuring maximum exposure for all banners. Note that rotation occurs only between both sized banners, meaning that the big ones do get rotated over to the small one's positions and vice-versa as well.
The page is optimized for fast loading with a responsive design which automatically resizes images for smaller/mobile screens.
We are limiting this to only 8 banner spots at a time, to ensure near-top placement for all banners (vertical space is very important on PTC sites where the upper-frame takes up a part of it)
The banners must be hosted on HTTPS image providers. For that purpose we can only recommend https://imgur.com/
Banner images must not show any adult content nor have annoying flashing images or colors.

The page is still in Beta phase because we still need to integrate it with our advertisement ordering form.
Till then orders are processed manually.
Those interested please send me a PM.

Pricing for 468x60 & 728x90 banners
1 day      $4.99
3 days      $9.99
7 days      $22.99
14 days      $44.99
30 days      $89.99
90 days      $249.99
180 days      $449.99
365 days      $799.99


Edit: corrected decimals delimiter.
Edit2: modified pricing.

Yes. I saw that!

...And we're back! 

rotate4all.com wrote on 15^th Jan, 2020 at 5:38pm:


Thanks for the update. We appreciate it. We'll wait it out. Hope it gets resolved soon.

Yes, it's down since more than 10 hours ago.
Quote from our hosting provider:

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Unfortunately this is out of our control. We just have to wait it out.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

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